Pope Francis, "Jesus dying on the cross was a failure" [Revelation 13]

9/25/2015 | Jan Sobieski

[Jan_Sobieski]

The greatly heralded Pope Francis, beneficiary of 24 hour news coverage from all news networks, has once again given us insight into his inner self in a sermon at St Patrick's Cathedral in New York City (Transcript of Sermon) . After starting the service, Pope Francis gave a heart warming shout-out to his "religion of peace", “Muslim brothers and sisters” when he said this:

“I would like to express two sentiments for my Muslim brothers and sisters: Firstly, my greetings as they celebrate the feast of sacrifice.”

The Pope clearly understands that for the last 1400 years, Islam has held that Christians and Jews are not brothers and sisters, but rather infidels worthy of death. Islam's god, Allah, states in Surah 19 of the Koran that he has no son. To say so is blasphemy against Allah and his prophet, Mohammed. However, despite what Muslims believe, the Chrislamic Pope Francis has demanded that the Christian nations in Europe and America receive all Muslim "al hijrah" immigrants, while the Vatican has the strictest immigration policy on earth. Perhaps the syncretic Pope believes that by paying obeisance to Islam he can bring the irrational religion under his cognitive dissonant sphere of influence? His later words in the sermon seem to dignify the Islamic view of Jesus' failure on the cross when he stated:

"And if at times our efforts and works seem to fail and not produce fruit, we need to remember that we are followers of Jesus Christ and his life, humanly speaking, ended in failure, the failure of the cross.

The Bible foretells in Revelation 13 that in the last days before the return of Jesus, an international religious figure will rise on the scene. The religious figure will look like a self-sacrificing, philanthropist. A real lover of man and the earth! He will appear harmless as a lamb, but when he speaks, he speaks like a ravenous dragon. He may feign faith in Christ, but in reality will direct everyone to worship another political figure who will be promoted to help solve the world's problems. Somehow this religious figure is so intertwined with politics and the economic system, he is able to promote a new worldwide economic order where all must have the the political figure's mark on their person in order to purchase, and to show loyalty to the "new world system". The Bible is also clear that whoever receives this "mark" will be damned to hell, with no hope of redemption.

I am not sure if Pope Francis IS this religious figure. If not, he is certainly a wonderful forerunner. Every time he opens his mouth, he continues his foray into the world political and economic orders and his consistent promotion of homosexuality, Allah as God of the Bible, and Marxism/Socialism betraying his "inner dragon"...

Victory in Jesus, by Eugene Monroe Bartlett, Sr.

I heard an old, old story
How a Savior came from glory
How He gave His life on Calvary
To save a wretch like me
I heard about His groaning
Of His precious blood's atoning
Then I repented of my sins
And won the victory

O victory in Jesus
My Savior, forever
He sought me and bought me
With His redeeming blood
He loved me ere I knew Him
And all my love is due Him
He plunged me to victory
Beneath the cleansing flood

I heard about His healing
Of His cleansing pow'r revealing
How He made the lame to walk again
And caused the blind to see
And then I cried, "Dear Jesus
Come and heal my broken spirit,"
And somehow Jesus came and brought
To me the victory

O victory in Jesus
My Savior, forever
He sought me and bought me
With His redeeming blood
He loved me ere I knew Him
And all my love is due Him
He plunged me to victory
Beneath the cleansing flood

I heard about a mansion
He has built for me in glory
And I heard about the streets of gold
Beyond the crystal sea
About the angels singing
And the old redemption story
And some sweet day I'll sing up there
The song of victory

O victory in Jesus
My Savior, forever
He sought me and bought me
With His redeeming blood
He loved me ere I knew Him
And all my love is due Him
He plunged me to victory
Beneath the cleansing flood!

[LostInBayport]

When I wrote about books I found value in from Baptist preachers: Charles Stanley was the writer I had in mind! One of his books was my daily devotional last year (this year it is C. S. Lewis)

GMTA

[mkjessup]

It is NOT “blasphemy” to suggest that from a human perspective that the crucifixion appeared to be a failure.

When one considers that we as human beings ALL operate 'from a human perspective', that to suggest the crucifixion was a "failure" is to invite in, and sow doubt in the human heart, especially for those who may not be theological or Biblical scholars with great discernment. The words "the crucifixion was a failure" are the words which resonate and no good can come of that.

No matter how much you hate the Pope, you can not believe that he believes Christ died in vain.

Well I'm going to reserve judgment on that until he explains these absurd and obscene displays which reportedly reside IN the Vatican:

[Resettozero]

GMTA

We must be directed by the same Spirit.

(It ain't MY mind that's great.)

[MamaB]

What junk.

[mkjessup]

Is it ‘junk’ when Poop Francis states that it is ‘dangerous’ to have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ?

[madison10]

People just aren’t reading and/or purposely taking him out of context. The key word here HUMANLY and even as an evangelical protestant I agree with tha phrase.

[Maris Crane]

If I believe what the Church teaches, I suppose I am Catholic. If the Church begins to teach something other than those tenets that I have enumerated, then I guess I’ll be the only Catholic. I don’t think that will ever happen, but nothing a pope, priest, nun, monk or any human will destroy my faith. What I believe is constant and unshakeable. And I am at peace with that.
The bad priests will have to answer to God, not me, and
without sympathy from me. If there were justice here on earth, they would all be in jail, including the Belgian clergyman, I believe the name is Deneels (sp?) will have a great deal for which to answer to God, including the conspiracy to elect Francis.

[MamaB]

Of course. Why would you ask that? I was talking about those pictures which do not belong anywhere near a church.

[noinfringers2]

I am of a different religion from the Catholic. From earliest years my Lutheran family though separated by theology was very close to Catholic families and children. We played on sports teams together. My Lutheran pastors did not approve of such but we valued the friendship of our Catholic neighbors and friends. However, I don’t recall of any Catholic Pope or even Bishop trying to interfere in our lives and conscience as this Pope. I don’t believe this man is of the Apostles. He is of the south of the borders night club scene from whence he came. His redo US talks makes me think more of a false purveyor than a true leader for Jesus Christ.

[Ann Archy]

Matthew 23:8...But you must not be called 'rabbi" for you have one Rabbi, and you are all brothers. Do not call any man on earth "father" for you have one Father, and he is in heaven. Nor must you be called "Teacher", you have one Teacher, the Messiah.

I think it's an equivalent thing......Jesus and God have NO EQUALS, and our fathers, rabbis and teachers are NOT GOD or JESUS!! JMO.

I proudly called my dad, FATHER, and my Priests, FATHER....I guess Jesus will JUDGE me accordingly......I'll take my chances and my punishment if I did something wrong.

[mkjessup]

My apologies MamaB, I misinterpreted your comment, but now I understand. Mea culpa!

[Jan_Sobieski]

Here is another good Bible Based church led by a "Freeper"...

Believers in Grace Fellowship

[Chaguito]

The victory of the cross was realized only later, after the appearance of defeat. At the moment of the crucifixion, essentially all his disciples saw defeat, not victory. That is how we behave at times, because we don’t employ God’s perspective. THAT was the pope’s point. Read what he said.

He didn’t mention the Resurrection directly, and that seems to be the beef some people here have. As this forum has taken up the mantle of False Prophet detectives, it has lost objectivity.

[MamaB]

That is ok. I did not think you understood. I do that all the time. : )

[SkyPilot]

and my Priests, FATHER

Jesus never did anything with frivolity. Everything He did or said had eternal and incredible significance. As the beginning and the end, the Alpha and the Omega, He knew all things.

He gave a strict order, and you choose to throw it aside, because....it is Catholic tradition.

That's a pretty big decision. As He said, if you were ignorant, you would be without sin, but since you say we see, the sin remains. John 9:41

As a former Catholic, I still have several priest friends. A couple are retired, although I have not seen two I know for several years (we still correspond). I don't address them as "Father" and they understand why, although I will cite them by that title 3rd party per as they call themselves. But not in a spiritually authoritative sense. Ever.

The reason Jesus gave these strict instructions (to not call spiritual leaders "Father") was this - He knew that sinfulness would attempt to usurp that spiritual authority that was our Father in heaven's, and His alone. He is the great I am.

This admonition was not without cause. Today, we see it played out in black and white.

We have the pope (Latin papa, which means “father" - usurping the authority of God). It is literally Christ's warning to us coming into reality.

Francis has committed blasphemy against Christ, saying Jesus is not a spirit, a relationship with Him is "dangerous", that there is no difference between the God of Christianity or Islam's "Allah", and scores of other lies against the Scriptures.

And now.....Jorge is here, mentioning the Gospel of Salvation not once (not once) during his address with Obama, before Congress, or the United Nations.

His message is that of "climate change", economic Marxism, humanism, and anything else that flies in the face of Christ's Great Commission. A man of the "world."

"You adulterous people! Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God." James 4:4

"Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age." Matthew 28: 18-20

To pick and choose what you know Christ said, and hide behind an institution (any institution) is to put your soul in eternal jeopardy. Christ gave another stern warning:

"Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’

Matthew 7: 21-23

[SkyDancer]

[caww]

....”The victory of the Cross was realized after the appearance of defeat”....

That is not what the Pope’s statement even implied....let alone was stated.

I have to agree with P-Marlowe posts completely...saying...

“Christ work was finished at the cross. His penultimate statement at the cross was “It is Finished.” ...The work was done. ...It was a ‘victory and not a failure’........You can make all the excuses you want for this miserable failure of a Pope, but you can’t polish a turd and call it art”.

[DoughtyOne]

That’s my take too. I will say the press does it’s best to chop his words up the accentuate the negative.

[caww]

....” the Pope understands nothing of the assignment Jesus was given; an assignment he willing took on himself and fulfilled to the letter without failure, humanly speaking or otherwise.

There is a third option however,... that is,... The Pope may actually believe that Jesus’ failed as a human being. He did not fulfill his mission in his human form… the sacrifice his body as a living sacrifice for the the sins of the world. If he really does believe this, he is Satan’s puppet and not God’s servant.

[Iscool]

Could the Pope have meant the crucifixion was a failure because Jesus arose from the dead?

The translation I saw cut out right then so I don't know what was said beyond that...But one thing is for certain...If the pope's messaged ended there, he led countless thousands or millions astray...And likely appeased his muzlim brothers at the same time...