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Scott Walker implodes, Carly Fiorina soars in new CNN poll
MSNBC ^ | 9/20/15 | Benjy Sarlin

Posted on 09/20/2015 8:22:59 AM PDT by VinL

The first major national poll since the second GOP debate finds Carly Fiorina surging into a second place and Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker’s campaign in total collapse.

The survey by CNN of 444 registered Republican voters put Donald Trump in first place with 24% support, a drop of 8 points since their last poll, and Fiorina in second place with 15%. Fiorina earned plaudits on the right for her debate performance, which included multiple clashes with Trump, although fact checkers pointed out that she vividly cited footage from a hidden camera video of Planned Parenthood that does not appear to exist. 52% of respondents said Fiorina was the winner of the debate while 31% said Trump lost.

Dr. Ben Carson, who had surged into second place in many polls after the first debate in August, stood in third at 14%. Sen. Marco Rubio leapt from single digits to fourth place with 11% of the vote, followed by former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush at 9%, Sen. Ted Cruz and former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee at 6%, Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul at 4%, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie at 3%, Ohio Gov. John Kasich at 2%, and former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum at 1%.

Missing from the list was Walker, who earned less than half a percentage point support, putting the former frontrunner in the same category as long shots like Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, former Virginia Gov. Jim Gilmore, South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham, and former New York Gov. George Pataki.

Walker started the race strong early this year and regularly led polls of Iowa through July, where he’s still hoping to jumpstart a comeback with a strong performance in the state’s caucuses. A combination of

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To: TTFlyer

“At least until the Dalmatians - Fur Coat - Cruella DeVille jokes get going.”

We need a pic of the Disney cartoon Cruella DeVille with Fiorina’s face photoshopped on. She could be wearing a partially complete coat, with some dead, skinned Dalmatian carcasses at her feet labeled “HP”, “Lucent”, “U.S. jobs”, etc. and a few more live, leaping puppies at her feet with labels of your choice.


41 posted on 09/20/2015 12:40:31 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: ScottinVA
I really cannot believe that is his current position. I also don't think that Jindal is tied with him, but I like him, too.

I see Walker as a low energy-type of candidate, but he does have a reasonable resume. However, his waffling on a few key items has left people confused at this time.

42 posted on 09/20/2015 12:48:34 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: VinL

67 total votes is soaring in the polls?


43 posted on 09/20/2015 2:04:40 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: VinL
Well, I think you overestimate the voters. Most are dumb and always been that way. I just read in National Review this past week that Romney's name recognition was only at 5% at the start of the 2012 race. He had been governor of Mass. and head of the Winter Olympics, etc. but only 5% knew who he was.

The point they were trying to make that even with his exposure, Romney allowed the dems to define him since he was not well known.

So yes, I believe those large percentages of people have not heard of some of these people. Two weeks ago, Carly's percentage of people who did not know of her was at 52% - that was only two weeks ago. So I do believe those numbers.

44 posted on 09/20/2015 2:52:47 PM PDT by Dave W
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To: Sacajaweau

Actually, the polls show that the more the voters get to know Carly, her numbers go up. Ben’s is going down, so you probably will need to revise your post.


45 posted on 09/20/2015 2:55:04 PM PDT by Dave W
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To: ScottinVA

Hang on....I think Carson and Carly will take a dive shortly. Walker and Cruz will rise.


46 posted on 09/20/2015 2:56:42 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: usconservative
Well, Walker is on his second term, so I assume he is not running for reelection. He is done in Wisconsin, unless he wants to go back to the state legislature or be the county executive again in Milwaukee.

Also, I read a few weeks ago that his favorability rating in Wisconsin had sunk to 38%.

It seems to be almost universal that politicians running for office while in a different position lose favor as many voters don't see that as appropriate. If you look like you are going down in flames, those same voters pile on even more. It's just the way it is.

47 posted on 09/20/2015 3:06:46 PM PDT by Dave W
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To: Dave W
I just read Carly on the issues...It's a big site. Looks like she doesn't have a strong stance on anything. Just words....and she has no record.

But there is the killing of HP and the under the table deal with Iran during the embargo. People will catch on.

48 posted on 09/20/2015 3:17:40 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: VinL

A tiny sample like this in a national poll when only 4 states matter before everything could be upended isn’t very useful.

The decline in Trump’s numbers should be a concern though. If this is reflected in other polls then it could be a serious problem for him. He can’t afford to have the air let out of his balloon this early in the process.


49 posted on 09/20/2015 3:21:18 PM PDT by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: VinL
Once again the devil is in the details:

"The CNN/ORC poll was conducted September 17-19 and surveyed 1,006 adult Americans, including 924 registered voters -- 444 of whom are Republicans and independents who lean toward the GOP. The margin of error with the Republican results is plus or minus 4.5 percentage points."
50 posted on 09/20/2015 3:28:49 PM PDT by tenger (It's a good thing we don't get all the government we pay for. . .)
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To: SteveAustin
"Walker worked that important (but local angle) for over a decade. It allowed him to create solutions and rehearse them enough to explain them well. But the national jetstream of issues is too fast moving. Walker couldn’t keep up."

I think you hit it here. Excellent analysis. Maybe if he gets elected to the senate and serves a term or two he'll be ready. Clearly not now, though.

Hank

51 posted on 09/20/2015 3:36:11 PM PDT by County Agent Hank Kimball (Eat Hooterville Rutabagas!)
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To: VinL

Walker hasn’t gotten me riled up about anything.

Last I heard he wanted to go after government labor unions at a national level. I’ll be honest with. That’s probably got some substance to it, but it just isn’t high on my list of the concerns I have for this nation.


52 posted on 09/20/2015 3:39:26 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their Victory!)
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To: VinL

His website sent out a notice last week that campaign gear was 40 percent off.


53 posted on 09/20/2015 3:43:54 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: Sacajaweau

I don’t think so. For many people, she’s a breath of fresh air. You will just have to let it play out. Posting stream of consciousness thoughts here is of no consequence. It’s a big country. Voters make up their own mind as you make up your own mind.


54 posted on 09/20/2015 3:47:45 PM PDT by Dave W
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To: SteveAustin
was a more specific problem to Wisconsin where the govt. unions had taken over day to day operation of the State for their own interests.

Actually, it seems that every single state and local government is ripping off the taxpayers by way of the unions but to regular folks, that's how government works. The union problem takes a lot longer to explain to people than illegals taking jobs and killing people.

55 posted on 09/20/2015 3:49:12 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: Dave W
Well, Walker is on his second term, so I assume he is not running for reelection.

He's not term-limited so he could if he wanted to. Not much else for him to do.

56 posted on 09/20/2015 3:50:26 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: tenger

Independents are allowed to vote in about half of republican primaries. That is why they are included. In other states, democrats are allowed to vote in the republican primary, too. A republican only poll is not representative of who will vote. Thought you may like to know.


57 posted on 09/20/2015 3:50:48 PM PDT by Dave W
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To: SteveAustin

I meant to add that Walker should have spent his time explaining to America why unions needed to be reined in, rather than talking about the results of what he did.


58 posted on 09/20/2015 3:51:21 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Since it’s a CNN pole, forget it.


59 posted on 09/20/2015 5:28:44 PM PDT by kagnew
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To: Dave W
>> the polls show that the more the voters get to know Carly, her numbers go up. <<

The more voters get to hear gushing mainstream media puff pieces on Carly ("rising star" "fearless debater", etc.), the more her numbers go up.

If voters got to know the REAL Carly (with her failed record in the private sector and poor Senate race in California as the handpicked McCain/Romney candidate), her numbers would go down.

60 posted on 09/20/2015 5:34:02 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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