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ANALYSIS: Carly Fiorina Leads Way as Republican Candidates Shrink Donald Trump’s Shadow
ABCNews ^ | September 17, 2015 | RICK KLEIN

Posted on 09/17/2015 12:07:17 AM PDT by Steelfish

ANALYSIS: Carly Fiorina Leads Way as Republican Candidates Shrink Donald Trump’s Shadow By RICK KLEIN Sep 16, 2015

Since nothing seems to have worked in attempts to stop Donald Trump, his rivals tried a new strategy at the second Republican debate: everything.

It didn’t make Trump go away, and nothing is likely to have happened that would make his growing support suddenly crater.

But Trump faded for long stretches -– and seemed more vulnerable than he did at the first debate, in front of a far-more raucous crowd. A tuned-in public saw a frontrunner with limitations in sharp view -– and who seemed to meet his match in the only female candidate in the field.

The pile-on started early, when Rand Paul said he wouldn’t want “someone like that in charge of the nuclear arsenal,” and called Trump a junior-high bully who calls people “short, tall, fat, ugly.” Scott Walker piled on to say Trump was using Democratic talking points, and suggested he would “take a country into bankruptcy.”

Jeb Bush found a new line of attack for the man who is defining outsider status: He called him an insider who pushed a “special interest” in Florida. He also called on Trump to apologize to his wife. (He didn’t.)

In perhaps the debate’s most memorable moment, Carly Fiorina did the unfathomable –- winning a, well, face-off with a chastened Trump, even after he backtracked to call her a “beautiful woman.”

Trump wasn’t quite neutralized, but he somehow didn’t dominate.

Trump denied, insulted, and attacked right back. While now praising her looks, he called Fiorina a “catastrophe” as a CEO.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California; US: Florida; US: Kentucky; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: 2016election; california; carlyfiorina; cnngopdebate; demagogicparty; election2016; memebuilding; newyork; partisanmediashill; partisanmediashills; rickklein; scottwalker; trump; wisconsin
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To: Steelfish

-——but he somehow didn’t dominate——

it was not necessary to dominate. the fact that he was being attacked from all sides gave him the time to dominate the proceedings with point making response after the attackers thrust was parried.

Trump controlled the event by not being carried off the field in a bloody mess

However...... Dr Ben gave a strong performance and will not lose his position as the comer trump must fear


61 posted on 09/17/2015 4:49:50 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ....carson is the kinder gentler trump)
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To: MagnoliaB
"CNN who started almost every question with ‘Trump said this about you so what do you say’."

It sure seemed that way to me. At one point a moderator and a candidate were arguing over whose turn it was to attack Trump LOL!
Looking for the transcript to check if my perception of the 'questioning' is correct.

62 posted on 09/17/2015 4:59:00 AM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: lee martell

>> “Rebel Rebel, your hair is a mess!,”

No, that wasn’t Trump, that was Rand Paul. :-)


63 posted on 09/17/2015 5:08:31 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (There is no "allah" but satan, and mohammed was his demon-possessed tool.)
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To: LeoWindhorse

>> at best Fiorino extracted a slight revenge

All of the silly talk that iCarly kicked Trump’s butt comes from one single exchange. Basically a sound bite.

But what do you expect from our political pundit class? A thoughtful analysis? The truth?


64 posted on 09/17/2015 5:11:27 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (There is no "allah" but satan, and mohammed was his demon-possessed tool.)
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To: Steelfish

Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain...


65 posted on 09/17/2015 5:12:44 AM PDT by Jim Noble (You walk into the room like a camel and then you frown)
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To: Steelfish

What happened to Dr. Ben. I thought he was the GOPs best bet to dethrone Trump.


66 posted on 09/17/2015 5:13:20 AM PDT by McGruff (The angry majority has awoken.)
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To: aft_lizard

I agree with you 100%. Carly won the debate and it wasn’t close.I can’t believe how people are sucked into this New York closet liberal Trump.


67 posted on 09/17/2015 5:17:45 AM PDT by tshaun
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To: bert

>> However...... Dr Ben gave a strong performance

Yeah, if he were running for “pope” or “divinity school professor”. Or maybe “surgeon general”.

As a candidate for POTUS though, Dr. Ben’s performance was dismal. IMHO of course.

(I wish Dr. Carson COULD and WOULD drop out of the race and kick Francis out from under his pope hat and take over as pope! It would be a win-win.)


68 posted on 09/17/2015 5:18:29 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (There is no "allah" but satan, and mohammed was his demon-possessed tool.)
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To: tshaun

>> I can’t believe how people are sucked into this New York closet liberal Trump.

As opposed to being sucked in to the Bay Area closet liberal iCarly?


69 posted on 09/17/2015 5:19:53 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (There is no "allah" but satan, and mohammed was his demon-possessed tool.)
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To: DaveA37
After watching Fiorina in action, I came away with a better understanding of why many men divorce their wives. To me, Fiorina came across as nasty, spiteful, mean, angry woman. Not what I would want in the WH.

In other words, she's too much like obama.

70 posted on 09/17/2015 5:24:33 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: DaveA37

After watching Fiorina in action, I came away with a better understanding of why many men divorce their wives. To me, Fiorina came across as nasty, spiteful, mean, angry woman. Not what I would want in the WH.


Yep. And that’s after her $40 million golden parachute from HP. She must be a ball of fun to be around.


71 posted on 09/17/2015 5:54:27 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: aft_lizard

She is pure GOPe.


72 posted on 09/17/2015 5:58:46 AM PDT by I Hired Craig Livingstone (DT16. Deal with it.)
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