Posted on 09/17/2015 12:07:17 AM PDT by Steelfish
ANALYSIS: Carly Fiorina Leads Way as Republican Candidates Shrink Donald Trump’s Shadow By RICK KLEIN Sep 16, 2015
Since nothing seems to have worked in attempts to stop Donald Trump, his rivals tried a new strategy at the second Republican debate: everything.
It didn’t make Trump go away, and nothing is likely to have happened that would make his growing support suddenly crater.
But Trump faded for long stretches -– and seemed more vulnerable than he did at the first debate, in front of a far-more raucous crowd. A tuned-in public saw a frontrunner with limitations in sharp view -– and who seemed to meet his match in the only female candidate in the field.
The pile-on started early, when Rand Paul said he wouldn’t want “someone like that in charge of the nuclear arsenal,” and called Trump a junior-high bully who calls people “short, tall, fat, ugly.” Scott Walker piled on to say Trump was using Democratic talking points, and suggested he would “take a country into bankruptcy.”
Jeb Bush found a new line of attack for the man who is defining outsider status: He called him an insider who pushed a “special interest” in Florida. He also called on Trump to apologize to his wife. (He didn’t.)
In perhaps the debate’s most memorable moment, Carly Fiorina did the unfathomable –- winning a, well, face-off with a chastened Trump, even after he backtracked to call her a “beautiful woman.”
Trump wasn’t quite neutralized, but he somehow didn’t dominate.
Trump denied, insulted, and attacked right back. While now praising her looks, he called Fiorina a “catastrophe” as a CEO.
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I have hope that Cruz will be showing up as VP, then president.
It will be interesting. I tried not to get too frustrated tonight and about the future implications.
I know Jesus said something about letting tomorrow take care of itself :)
I usually have enough to deal with in the day i’m in!
Ah!
Oh ho ho!!!
Now I see what you did there.
LOL
Never mind.
I *finally* got the joke.
Never saw that before.
It *will* be appearing in my conversations, shortly, though.
Thanks!
:D
If you'll please check my posting history, you'll find that I have long supported our fine Texas Senator Cruz. Prior to that, I was solid for Governor Palin. I've voted Conservative since the 1964 election and campaigned for Nixon in 1960 when I was just under the voting age at that time. He was a good Conservative then before he slid to the left after 1968.
How ironic that Donald Trump, one of the oldest candidates has become the Enfant’ Terrible of modern day American politics. “Rebel Rebel, your hair is a mess!,”
Looks like the uniparty is hitting the Carly Koolaide hard tonight.
Fiorina is an incompetent nasty bitch that won’t shut up and has no manners or decency. Attention whore.
No difference between her and SHRILLARY!
http://www.politico.com/story/2010/03/packard-fiorina-almost-destroyed-hp-034086
The granddaughter of one of Hewlett-Packard’s founders wrote a letter Monday trashing California GOP Senate candidate Carly Fiorina’s leadership of the company.
Arianna Packard, the granddaughter of HP co-founder David Packard, wrote the letter to the three Republican senators who recently endorsed Fiorina – James Inhofe and Tom Coburn of Oklahoma as well as Jon Kyl of Arizona – over former Rep. Tom Campbell and state Assemblyman Chuck DeVore.
Packard has a long feud with Fiorina, publicly criticizing her leadership of the company and pushing for her ouster in 2005. In 2002, Packard teamed with Bill Hewlett – son of co-founder Walter Hewlett – in an attempt to kill Fiorina’s planned merger with Compaq.
“As I’m sure you’ve seen over the past year, voters don’t like Senators who don’t read bills before they vote on them,” Packard wrote in a letter first posted on the conservative blog RedState. “Voters (and donors) also don’t like Senators who get involved in contested primaries, especially without having done their homework. I would respectfully suggest that in the future you conduct more detailed research on candidates before endorsing them.”
Packard then went through each of the reason the senators gave for endorsing Fiorina to rebut their claims, especially that she is a “proven business leader.”
“I know a little bit about Carly Fiorina, having watched her almost destroy the company my grandfather founded. So, allow me to disillusion you of a few of your stated reasons for supporting her,” Packard wrote.
“Most business commentators consider Fiorina’s tenure at HP to be a disaster,” Packard continued. “The stock price dropped by 50% only to rally 10% on the announcement of her firing. She fired 28,000 people before she herself was fired, departing with the 21 million dollar golden parachute that is financing her campaign.”
Packard has contributed $2,400 to DeVore’s campaign, according to FEC filings.
Responding, Fiorina spokeswoman Julie Soderlund, said, “It is unfortunate that Ms. Packard very clearly has been given a long list of false information and baseless attacks by Carly’s opponents.”
“It is important that California voters understand the success of Carly’s tenure at HP and her credentials as a fiscal conservative. This is particularly important since her opponents in this race are perennial candidates and career politicians, and have been working overtime to invent falsehoods about Carly in order to get elected to their next job,” Soderlund added. “Carly welcomes an examination of her record. It is a record that will stand the test of scrutiny, particularly against Barbara Boxer’s record of failure for the last 18 years in the Senate.”
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2010/03/packard-fiorina-almost-destroyed-hp-034086#ixzz3lyq1zJMo
That would take me to 64, close to retirement and the country will be doing great :)
God willing!
:)
I was hoping that Cruz or Walker would do better but Cruz can’t seem to get any traction and Walker doesn’t seem to have much charisma.
I wish CNN had split the candidates up evenly during the debates. It should have been eight candidates in the preliminary debate and seven in the later debate.
Fiorina may surge from 2% to 4% but that’s about it.
Trump will hit 35% by Monday.
>> “Rebel Rebel, your hair is a mess!”
lol, very good...
Trump is boldly articulating the grievance most every politician and legislator is ignoring. How much louder do we need to express: “No more, it’s over!” ?
Sadly, Trump’s rhetoric isn’t catching fire among the other candidates. And that’s a poignant example of how bad it truly is.
I’m optimistic.
more BS ...at best Fiorino extracted a slight revenge , just being advanced to the big stage and being able to bring up , or have mentioned the slight Trump delivered her , last week.
He had to squirm a bit as she responded to that . Big deal, so what ?
NOTHING diminished Trump nor will diminish the enthusiasm the real folks hold for him , one bit .
BRING IT ON ! And say hello to the next POTUS of the USA
“The media is pushing for this bought and paid for politician Fiorina because they want to use her as an attack dog to take down Trump. The rich internationalist donors are switching to her and Cruz’s pack also donated to her remember that?
They think that if they say a lie often enough that people will believe it.”
I agree with you fully! Notice how the debate wasn’t 10 candidates? I suspect strings were pulled and deals were made so that she could be #11 in the debate. If she is so conservative, why isn’t the media going after her tooth and nail as they did to Sarah? The GOPe branch of the Uniparty got nervous that Jeb can’t get any traction, so like the good little libtards they are, they’re going to use a moderate, at best, feminist woman for all its worth, thinking she’ll have to face Hillary for another “historic” election.
We have two unique and outstanding candidates in both Cruz and Trump, and it’s a horrible shame that the Uniparty will do all in its power, everything and anything, to see to it that either, or both as running mates, don’t get the nomination. Absolutely pathetic and disgusting! The Uniparty WANTS to see America as we know it fail.
Cruz and Walker were seen as contenders before Trump hit the stage, so maybe they’re trying to wait for the field to thin a bit more. Perry is already out. There may be some others before October is over.
Cruz I can see playing a waiting game. He has a Senate seat and lots of opportunities to be in front of a national camera on Senate business. Walker I don’t think can afford that. I could see Dems in Wisconsin stirring trouble, compelling him to make stops at home to settle things there.
I was just thinking that Walker is not in a “fight for his life” in the way he was in Wisconsin. His kind of resolve may not be the fiery kind. But he does need to connect with the base of Republicans nation-wide in some way to show he has the stuff to deal with Dems on a national level, too.
Generally, I don’t trust the debates to objectively present the candidates. They’re more like game shows or Survivor than genuine debates. I think they’re good ways for candidates to make impressions on people, score points on one another, or unnecessarily stumble, but that’s about it.
LOL
/ear worm
Cruz was on fire, however briefly and made excellent points.
Perhaps his star will rise a bit, now.
To be fair, she did address the “by the piece or by the pound” aborted baby issue.
But, as Rick Perry is fond of saying, even a stopped clock is right once a day.
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