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Posted on 09/09/2015 1:01:18 PM PDT by Dave346
House Republican leaders are delaying a vote on the Iran nuclear deal scheduled for Wednesday because of a rebellion from rank-and-file conservatives.
The House was to hold a procedural vote to begin 11 hours of debate on a resolution disapproving the deal at 1 p.m. Instead, they will gather at 4 p.m. to discuss strategy. "We will continue the conversation on Iran from this morning and discuss strategy for the rest of the week," a GOP leadership aide said.
The House subsequently went into recess shortly after noon once leadership called off the procedural vote.
GOP leaders had to change course after hearing an earful from rank-and-file members during a morning conference meeting.
Members of the conservative House Freedom Caucus are demanding that the Obama administration send side deals between Iran and international nuclear inspectors to Congress as part of the Iran deal now under consideration. Opponents of the deal have argued that the clock on congressional consideration of the deal has not even begun until these side deals are submitted.
Under legislation approved earlier this year, Congress has 60 days to review the deal before the White House can begin lifting sanctions on Tehran, as required under the nuclear deal.
Rep. Peter Roskam (R-Ill.) has offered a resolution that would prevent a vote on the Iran deal until all of the documents of the international agreement — including the deals between Iran and the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) are provided to Congress for review.
“We had a very healthy conversation with our members this morning. There is some interest in the idea offered by Mr. [Mike] Pompeo, Mr. Roskam. We're going to continue to have those conversations,” Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) said after a GOP conference meeting.
In the Senate, there is skepticism from Republicans about the conservative plan.
“As I understand law, once Sept. 17 passes is it not the case that the president will take the view that he is free to go forward,” to lift sanctions, Senate GOP Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) said, rejecting the proposal.
Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Bob Corker (R-Tenn.) also dismissed the proposal.
Aides said they are looking at changing the “rule” — which governs debate on the House floor — so that a vote on Iran can still happen this week.
Rep. John Fleming (R-La.) predicted that the procedural vote on the rule would fail if it were held Wednesday. But neither he nor other members of the House Freedom Caucus who believe Congress lacks all the information it needs to vote on the deal would commit to voting against the rule on the floor.
“If we take a vote prematurely, then we’re saying it doesn’t matter. And again, that’s another form of approval. Why do we want to approve anything here when it’s a bad deal and we don’t even know the worst part of it?” Fleming said.
Fleming suggested that allowing lawmakers to review the side agreements between Iran and the IAEA could even flip some Democrats to oppose the deal.
“Let’s say that something comes out that’s so hideous and so egregious that even Democrats wouldn’t dare go along with this deal,” Fleming said. “You don’t know what you don’t know. We didn’t know that the NSA was doing bulk collection of emails until we found about it.”
But other Republicans say it's too late to try to stall the vote when Congress's 60-day review period will close on Sept. 17.
“You know what, I think it’s pretty clear that a month and a half ago we understood that Sept. 17 would be the drop-dead date. And the week we’re doing it is a little bit late to bring up the argument,” said House Rules Committee Chairman Pete Sessions (R-Texas).
Even if Roskam's resolution passed the House, it's unlikely to pass the Senate where 42 Democrats support the Iran deal and could block the measure from a vote. And resorting to a litigation could take months or even years to resolve — during which President Obama would be likely to lift sanctions within his control.
“I mean, this thing [the Iran deal] would be long in effect. I’m not sure that’s a real option,” said Rep. Steve Stivers (R-Ohio).
“I think a vote is important, but I understand why we want to have all the data,” Stivers added.
This story was updated at 2:50 p.m.
Now there is a GOP fight over what to do about it.
It’s a pretend fight, a Kabuki dance. Nothing more.
Yeah, like the GOP will do anything about the violation of Corker. Nor will they do anything to stop this silly “deal”..
The correct answer is not to vote on the legislation at all.
If nothing goes out of congress, there is nothing to veto, and there is no approved ‘deal’.
This rightly belongs as a treaty in the Senate.
EVERY member of Congress, House or Senate, that doesn’t agree that this is a treaty is a traitor and a liar.
Does any member of this Republican Congress and Senate remember the vast significance of that date?
Banners and posters should be displayed throughout this nations reminding each and every elected Congressman and Senator :
September 17 is Constitution Day!
“litigation could take months or even years to resolve “ ...and the big money donors who paid to have the sanctions lifted don’t want that.
Mark Levin at Rally today...The congress needs to take the steel from that scafolding and put it in their spines!
it won’t happen..
But boy it would be nice if we had congress critters with a set of brass ones
Freegards
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First, fire Boehner and McConnell, then change the rules on the filibuster, THEN hold the Iran vote.
The answer to McConnell’s question is NOOOOOO!
Obama is NOT free to do as he pleases after Sept. 17th, because the Congress has not received the entire agreement, necessary to start the 60 day clock.
I’m convinced that, after all is said and done, the GOP leadership will do the worst possible thing.
Exactly. Boner’s running out the clock. By next Thursday Obama will be lifting the sanctions and the House will still be trying to have a vote.
And listen to McConnell and Corker. They really want this Iran deal, badly!
The Republican (In Name Only) Leadership is still bitch-slapping the base while they high-five each other. NOTHING has changed.
Trump can’t get in office soon enough.
It is a play fight. The GOPe is treasonous.
If there is a full GOP revolt against the leadership, they could stop the House from passing anything (or even starting the debate).
Folding may still be likely, but for the moment this delay can only be a good thing as it draws attention to the violation of the Corker bill.
They will do nothing.
Yup.
I don’t think the House conservatives are ‘playing’.
Of course Boehner just wants to please the donors who paid to have the sanctions lifted.
The House Republican caucus is meeting right now so we’ll know very soon.
“EVERY member of Congress, House or Senate, that doesn’t agree that this is a treaty is a traitor and a liar.”
Well, you covered 90% of them. 100% of the leaders.
It’s a pretend fight, a Kabuki dance. Nothing more.
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Exactly right. Just more posturing and pretending by the GOP. They will do the same thing they always do: nothing at all.
Arrest the 0dingo administration including IRANIAN-BORN Valerie and throw them in jail. This isn't 'funny'. This isn't just a bunch of Democrats who are extreme. These are Muslims HELPING MUSLIMS while pissing on Israel and committing treason against the Unites States. Everyone KNOWS 0dingo is a Liar. Everyone saw him ILLEGALLY give away 5 Taliban commanders in exchange for a rotten DEFECTOR while giving Congress NO ability to stop it. WHO DID THIS BENEFIT? Think about that. This 'deal' is nothing short of terrorist-sympathizers in the WH helping to shield Iran and buy them MORE time to develop their nukes. 0dingo and Jarrett KNOW Iran will lie and CHEAT as the months roll by getting ever more dangerously close to wiping Israel off the map and even EMP'ing America rendering her dead as dead.
Boehner and McConnell must go. There is no reason to support the Republican Party in any way, shape or form until these two are forced out. This would be a small but necessary step towards restoring the GOP’s lost credibility. Until they take this step, there is no reason to believe them on anything.
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