"...and she'll never stop lying"
Posted on 09/02/2015 11:37:08 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Hillary Clinton hit her highest unfavorable rating in seven years in the new Washington Post/ABC poll, and that’s no coincidence. That was also the last time that Hillary Clinton had a shot at the presidency, too, and the long campaign eroded her standing with American voters. This time around, she just reached the 2008 nadir more quickly:
Let’s start with the bad news for Clinton. Fully, 53 percent have an unfavorable impression of her, the highest since April 2008 in Post-ABC surveys. That mark is eight percentage points higher than in July, though not as far from a Post-ABC poll in late May (49 percent). Intense views also run clearly against Clinton, with almost twice as many having a “strongly unfavorable” view of her (39 percent) as “strongly favorable” (21 percent).
Having said that, the alternatives don’t look much better:
Concerns about Clinton’s falling popularity have fed uncertainty among Democrats about her electability, as well as speculation that Vice President Biden will challenge her for the Democratic nod. But the Post-ABC poll finds Biden’s image before starting a campaign is far from stellar, at 46 percent favorable to 46 percent unfavorable.
What’s more, among fellow Democrats, Clinton boasts a higher favorability rating of 80 percent to Biden’s 70 percent. Both Biden and Clinton garner favorable ratings above 80 percent among liberal Democrats, but among moderate and conservative Democrats, Clinton’s 3-to-1 positive ratio outstrips Biden’s 2-to-1. Clinton is also more popular with Democrats than Donald Trump or Jeb Bush among their base; each candidate’s favorable ratings among Republicans stand below 60 percent.
So much for the Biden option. These numbers reflect Biden as Vice President, and as a somewhat idealized Plan B for Democrats. When Biden actually starts to campaign — if he starts to campaign — voters will shortly get a much different sense of Joe Biden. Frank Bruni takes people down Memory Lane to remind them of a few points about Biden’s presidential bids:
Voters are anti-Washington in particular, and more than 42 of those years have been spent in the national’s capital, as a senator from Delaware and then as the vice president.
Aspects of his legislative record are more troubling for him now than ever before. As Nicholas Fandos noted in a recent story in The Times, Biden pushed for, and later crowed about, tough-on-crime legislation in the 1980s and 1990s that preceded the mass incarceration of today. That would be a wedge between him and the Democratic Party’s black voters especially.
And as Steve Eder noted in another recent story in The Times, Biden was, of necessity, an ambassador for the financial services industry in Delaware. That hardly positions him to win the favor of liberal Democrats who yearn for a crackdown on Wall Street. …
And while much about circumstances and about Biden has changed since then, what hasn’t, at least not significantly, is the uncorked, uncensored quality that contributed to his troubles before.
In other words, he’s a 20th-century Democrat who would have to run in a 21st-century Democratic Party, and still a gaffemaster to boot.
Back to the WaPo/ABC poll data, a series which has been substantially sunny for Hillary in the past. How sunny? Her previous favorable/unfavorable rating was 52/45 six weeks ago. That has changed 15 points in the gap since to 45/53. In May Hillary got 45/49, but that was a far cry the 67/26 she registered in this series as she left the State Department. Crashing to a -8 favorability in this series says something about Hillary’s standing, even if Democrats have no realistic Plan B at the ready.
Interestingly, the Post/ABC didn’t bother to ask questions about Hillary’s internal qualities. Perhaps they figured they could guess what those numbers would look like. Instead, they asked favorability questions about Biden, and Donald Trump and Jeb Bush on the GOP side. Both Republican candidates have serious favorability issues, and not much upside. Trump gets 37/59 with only 4% undecided, and Bush gets 38/55 and 7% undecided. That still doesn’t tell us much unless we know the favorability ratings of the other Republican candidates, but the Post/ABC didn’t ask about those either.
The only real lesson we get from this poll is that Hillary’s plummeting, and Democrats have no other realistic options on the table. That’s not exactly news, not even to most Democrats.
She gets more unpopular when she is seeking power. No surprise there.
That’s why she’s not doing interviews. Her handlers know what I know: to know her is to hate her!
The public has a shallow understanding of things, and a short memory. The media will raise Her Royal Hipness to a Shining Queen of America while chanting “First Woman President” 24 hours a day.
bttt
“So much for the Biden option. “
“I am Neil Kinnock, currently dead, but I approve this message”
"...and she'll never stop lying"
Hillary is going to hide until the election. She will hide in plain sight. Never asked a question. Never give a position on anything. She must be indicted for her to fade away.
Jim, do you really expect the mind-meld to work on the Hillorta?
Ain't no such animal.
Invest in clothes pins. Both Democrats and Republicans will wearing them when voting in the general election.
Is she a good leader?
Is she personable?
Is she a good person?
Does she have good ideas?
Does she have a history of success?
Is she physically attractive?
Does she have a history of intergrity?
Is she inpiring?
Is she a great speaker?
No one can honestly answer 'yes' to any of these questions.
Crazy Democrats.
Well, she can be thankful for one thing. She’s no less popular with me today.
I’ve thought she was a collectivist POS for decades.
Here’s what’s gonna happen.
Hillary will be destroyed by 0bama and his commie posse; puppet Biden will be the dem’s candidate with purpose to be controlled by 0bama by his posse for his 3rd and hopeful 4th terms. The level of voter fraud by them will be 120% voting in most city districts and I only hope our side has a candidate who can beat that.
CNN says 82% of Hispanics don’t like Trump; hmmm...makes me think perhaps there is still a chance of him being there like Perot. Not sure.
Hillary is getting her behind kicked.
She knows she needs to spend $30,000,000 on ads to improve her image.
She isn’t doing it.
Why?
“Clinton is particularly strong in her party, seen favorably by 80 percent of Democrats.”
The kool-aid drinkers are strong with this one ...
When the alternatives are SlowJoe and Burney, Hillary looks pretty good, LOL.
Hillary is done with. Behind the scenes there is being conducted a huge investigation relative the largest breach of National Security since the A-Bomb. The digital world has far too many backup systems and the FBI has been tasked to run it all to ground.
D.C. has thousands of career employees and investigators that have spent most of their lives dedicated to protecting our secrets. Even if Hil is pardoned, which I expect soon, the investigation must continue.
Far too many people turned a blind eye on what they knew was dead wrong activity. Some of them have probably already come forward, and their testimony will lead to others that were willful participants.
This is just the type of investigation that the FEDs are so good at. I am just astonished that there havent been more leaks. I think the word is out, that many heads will roll on this one, and those that leak will be included.
Ben Franklin said "Three can keep a secret, if two of them are dead".
A good attorney for any of the participants would be eagerly seeking a deal for their client in exchange for leniency.
Just one more hint, those that have been the most quiet lately are either cooperating to save their skin or trying to avoid bringing any more attention upon themselves. Bill C. liked to brag a lot to his friends, I suspect he will be found to be indictable also.
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