Posted on 08/30/2015 6:05:36 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey
For more than a century, the tallest mountain on the continent was named after the 25th U.S. president, William McKinley.
Now, in honor of Alaska's indigenous Athabascan people, who had always called it "Denali," President Barack Obama is changing it back, the White House said in a release Sunday.
(Excerpt) Read more at nbcnews.com ...
I'm not a big fan of Sarah, but I have no idea why she picked up on this. Was it simply to curry favor, or did she feel as you do? That's something I can't answer.
The whole state wants it named Denali and has wanted it that way for 40 years.
And yet it has been named that for 100 years...
I love how some Freepers are for State’s rights... until they aren’t.
It has been my policy that all government land should be returned to the states. I have not included national parks in that. Perhaps I should. I don't object to national parks. I do rebel when it comes to U. N. National Biosphere preserves.
Let’s have a little intellectual honesty, shall we? You hate this decision because you hate Obama. There’s no rational basis behind it.
I object to it for the reasons I've stated. If you want to bring Obama into it, I disagree with him for the reasons stated, and because he has absolutely no authority to do this with a wave of his pen.
Do I need to mention who agrees with his ability to do it?
Alaska Republicans, half of whom are RINOs, are pandering to voters who hate them, seems to me. And this is a diss of a GOP President which is uncool and should not be tolerated from the likes of Obama. Notice this clown didn’t have the balls to do this until after he won Ohio.
Anyway, this doesn’t seem to be legal for Obama to do unilaterally, which is a larger issue. If Congress were to agree, so be it, but they’ve been cut out by King Dingleberry, again. Why not have Alaska stick a referendum question on the next ballot? If it’s really such a popular change supported by the people, fine. But no, a fiat from the King and that’s all she wrote and let’s celebrate another evil white guy having his name taken off something.
Agree on Idlewild 100%, that’s a cool name besides.
Denali is a ok name too all things considered, I thought it was a brand of bottled water though. I was thinking of “Disani”.
Dasani, rather.
I wouldn’t see the point of even doing a referendum in AK, it would be a waste of taxpayer $$ to ascertain that probably 90% would favor “Denali.” The local papers could do an online survey and it would reflect that.
I like President McKinley, but the name never did stick, and the Ohio delegation was perennially trying to stop something the folks in Alaska didn’t want. If they’re wanting to honor him so badly in Ohio, name something monumental for him there that the locals will approve of.
Since it was called Denali for a 1,000 years or so before that, why not keep the name?
I can tell you, since I used to live in that area. Nearly everyone around where she lives has called it Denali for as long as they lived.
I read an article the other day that stated the name was not actually opposed up until some activists got hold of the issue some 40 years ago and turned it into one.
Do you think any other government that might replace us down the road would have second thoughts naming places as they saw fit?
Should we start reverting all the places we have renamed in the United States?
Having the third largest National Park known as Denali seems to be honoring that name. It’s not like the name was erased from society or anything.
I’m just stating a fact. I don’t know why Sarah saw it the way she did, and to say otherwise wouldn’t be fair to her.
So does the president now have the authority to name or rename anything he chooses? Since when?
False claim. It was hated from the beginning.
Hudson Stuck, the first to climb to the Summit of Denali 1913 pleaded to get the original name restored.
http://chriswoodside.com/who-led-first-ascent-denali
You can still buy his book and read that in his preface
http://www.amazon.com/Ascent-Denali-Hudson-Stuck/dp/1602061335
Do you think any other government that might replace us down the road would have second thoughts naming places as they saw fit?
Should we start reverting all the places we have renamed in the United States?
I think the will of the people who live there should not have a group of outsiders change the name of their local place. I think when such a wrong has been done, and the locals spend decades trying to get an overbearing federal government to restore their rights to local control, we should encourage them.
The Koyukon Athabaskans who inhabit the area around the mountain have for centuries referred to the peak as Dinale or Denali. The name is based on a Koyukon word for "high" or "tall".[21] During the Russian ownership of Alaska, the common name for the mountain was Bolshaya Gora (Russian: Большая Гора, bolshaya = Russian for big; gora = Russian for mountain), which is the Russian translation of Denali.
Both words, denali and bolshaya gora have exotic sounds for a common descriptive word, "tall." The custom for naming places after people has gone on for thousands of years. The name "Rome," for instance is believed to be named, 2500 years ago, after the city's founder and first king, Romulus. Settling for a simple word for tall when there are people to venerate, is how things work.
What if the people of Illinois decided to name the peak after their native son, Abraham Lincoln? This could have happened after Alaska was purchased from the Russians in 1867 (Lincoln was assassinated in 1865). You will note that both Lincoln and McKinley were assassinated. So what if Obama decided to changed the name of Mt. Lincoln to that simple Koyukon Athabaskan name for "tall." Would that thrill just trickle down you leg?
Well, I disagree.
When you open the barn door, all the cows tend to get out.
Note how the ACLU and homosexuals have taken their efforts on the road, filing suits and forcing change.
We’ll be lucky if that doesn’t happen now with every object in the nation tainted by those evil people who came from Europe.
Don’t expect to see Martin Luther King Boulevards or Caesar Chavez boulevards changed in the rush...
Think of the many places we have named. Watch activists exploit the model you have just endorsed.
Were those names changed by the locals? Or by Federal politicians thousands of miles away that would never visit and force the name on the locals?
Let the federal government force a new name our your local place, regardless of the will of the locals and see if you hold the same view.
It is not a case of renaming, but restoring the name.
What’s your excuse going to be when activists file law suits on behalf of some folks claiming to be the last members of some Native American tribe, who demands the names of Mt. Wilson, Mt. Whitney, Mt. Lassen..., et al, be changed back to their Native American name?
All someone has to do now is point the Obama doing the very same thing, and Conservatives clapping in approval.
What happens when it’s Mt. Rushmore, and the Native Americans demand it be returned to it’s original state?
If the population of the state want to rename it, go for it.
States rights.
The Federal Government never should have forced the name on Alaska in the first place.
Again, start from the premise of the Federal forced name pushed on to the local population.
I could care less that it happened under Obama. I am just glad it happened.
You know what, I know you don’t care.
Wave of the pen is just fine with some folks on our side.
It isn’t for me. I don’t advocate it for Trump either, unless it is to undo something Obama has done illegally. And so when Trump changes the name back, by canceling out Obama’s illegal act, I’ll support him doing it.
I don’t support him doing it for anything new, which is what Obama is doing here.
Ending the safe haven for illegals is something else Trump will end. Every one of Obama’s illegal acts, can be undone. That will be fitting.
Doing something new, will not be. We are a nation of laws.
It is so interesting to learn what you know about my thoughts.
What I know, for a decade before this day, I have been calling it Denali after learning how it was named.
I'm happy the will of Alaska has finally been expressed to the Federal Government.
God Bless.
Well, because you said so?
Thackney, I appreciate you defending your side of it.
Take care.
on this meaningless symbolic issue, Obama respects the states. (and plugs his delusional environmental global tax scam)
On other substantive issues Obama has no respect for the states.
Seattle Mayor Charles Royer and the City Council changed the name for Empire Way to Martin Luther King Way—after a lawsuit against it by the Merchants Association was tossed out by the State Supreme Court.
Honorary Oprah Winfrey Way was named as one of his final acts by Chicago Mayor Richard Daley. Winfrey’s honorary street designation was never approved by the City Council’s Transportation Committee. Ironically, the Harpo Studios in Chicago, where she filmed “The Oprah Winfrey Show” for more than 20 years where the street was named, was closed. Could not find anywhere if the Chicago City Council’s Transportation Committee finally approved the name change.
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