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If Trump's Campaign Collapses, It'll Be For One Of These 6 Reasons
Townhall.com ^ | August 29, 2015 | John Hawkins

Posted on 08/29/2015 4:50:36 AM PDT by Kaslin

I don’t know whom I will end up supporting next year, but I do like Donald Trump.

I like his books. I like his personality. I appreciate all of the things he's done right in this campaign.

If you applied the old "Who would you like to have a beer with?” test that has probably determined far more elections than most Americans want to admit, Trump would beat everyone in the field combined twice over. In a time when the Republican Party has become timid, weak and utterly corrupt, Trump is bold, strong and he has enough money that he can't be bought off. Also, unlike most other Republican politicians, he doesn't turn into a pool of whimpering jello every time someone claims to be offended. His immigration plan? It may be the single best thing a Republican politician has come out with in the last decade. Also, in a time when most of the Republican Party isn't willing to fight anyone except for its own supporters and won't fight for anything except what its wealthy donors want, Trump has shown a willingness to take on the Left and win.

Yet and still, I never expected Trump to make it into first place. Then, after he made it into first place, I never expected him to hang on for so long. He has already taken enough hits and made enough gaffes to kill 5 other campaigns, but Trump has done so much right that the things he's done wrong haven't done much damage. If anything, Trump seems to be getting STRONGER.

This has been reflected in the types of discussions you hear about Trump on the radio. In every radio appearance I’ve done in the last couple of months, we’ve inevitably spent at least half of our time talking about Trump. At first, the question that kept coming up was, “Why are people supporting him?” Then it moved on to some variation of, “How long do you think Trump can last?” Now that Trump has shown some staying power, the question has become, “Will Trump win the nomination?”

I don’t know the answer to that question and anyone who tells you definitively that Trump is going to win or is going to go down in flames is full of it. However, I can make some educated guesses about what could stop the guy who’s dominating the field from winning.

1) How Conservative Will He Turn Out To Be? Trump has no problem admitting that he used to have much more liberal opinions, but he says he’s “evolved” to become much more conservative, much the same way Reagan did. Of course, Reagan “evolved” as a very conservative politician who had a chance to show what he really believed as the governor of California. Because Trump hasn’t held office and tends to talk in very broad strokes, we really don’t know how conservative he will turn out to be on many issues. Over the next few months, Trump will be forced to spend a lot of time fleshing out his positions and if it turns out he’s well to the Left of the base on some of them, it could peel off enough support to cost him the nomination.

2) He Could Top Out: This is one you hear a lot from political insiders. Supposedly, if it turns into a two man race, with Trump vs. an “anti-Trump” candidate, his support may top out and he’ll be unable to win.However, that may be wishful thinking. After all, in the latest Quinnipiac poll, Trump is polling at 28% while the other “outsider” candidates (Carson, Cruz, Fiorina) draw in another 24%. Trump would have a better shot than anyone of reeling in those voters if those candidates left the race. Combine that with the fact that the RNC heavily frontloaded the primaries and that Republican voters LOVE to jump on the bandwagon of the campaign that they think will win and there’s not much reason to believe that Trump could start extremely strong, but wouldn’t be able to gather enough support to emerge victorious. If Trump dominates in the beginning, it’s highly likely that he’ll be dominating in the end as well.

3) Mistakes Pile Up: Donald Trump has shown a remarkable ability (for a Republican at least) to survive gaffes that would wipe out a lesser candidate. There were his comments about McCain, the fight with Fox over the debate, retweeting some nasty shots at Megyn Kelly and probably a half dozen other minor incidents for him that would have done serious damage to another candidate. Although it’s possible Trump could make a major gaffe that will sink him, an accumulation of mistakes could be just as lethal. It’s sort of like a car. You expect a mechanical problem now and then, but if you have to take it in for repairs every few weeks, you’ll eventually conclude it’s a lemon and go get a new one.

4) He Has Bad Polling Numbers Against The Democrats In 2016: Head-to-Head polling numbers in August of 2015 don’t mean much. After all, there haven’t been any ads yet, the voters are just learning the candidates and the debates are just getting started. However, later in the campaign season, in say January of 2016, how the different GOP candidates match up with the Democrats will take on more significance. While a minor difference in numbers shouldn’t sway anyone, if it turns out Trump is getting buried while other candidates are doing well, it will move votes. At the end of the day, it’s not just about beating the Republican Establishment; it’s about putting someone in the White House who can change things.

5) He May Be Reluctant To Spend Money: According to Ed Rollins, who ran Ross Perot’s run at the White House, one of the things that kept the campaign from really taking off was Perot’s refusal to spend the money he needed to get over the top.It might seem surprising that a billionaire like Perot wouldn’t be willing to spend what it took to win, but billionaires get that rich by accumulating money, not by spending it on things that will never produce a financial return on their investment. There are at least some indications that Trump may be reluctant to spend what it takes to win as well,

While Democratic front-runner Hillary Rodham Clinton boasts an army of more than 350 paid staffers, Trump's operation fields less than a tenth that number.

It includes a coterie of about a dozen paid staffers operating out of the campaign headquarters at Trump Tower on Manhattan's Fifth Avenue — the same building where Trump lives and runs his real estate empire.

His team has no pollster, fundraisers or media consultant and only announced its first fulltime, big-name policy adviser this week.

Becoming the next President of the United States is probably going to cost somewhere between 2.5 and 5 billion dollars. Can even Trump liquidate enough of his empire to shell out that much? More importantly, would he be willing to do it? The jury’s out right now, but as we get closer to the first primaries, we’re going to see if Trump is really willing to vaporize a large chunk of his own fortune to become the next President of the United States.

6) Opposition Research Could Be A Problem: Because Donald Trump has never run for office, he has not been fully vetted. In his case, that’s an area of particular concern because he’s a celebrity, playboy billionaire on his third marriage who has no qualms about saying outrageous things. As we speak, every book he’s written and every public appearance he’s ever made is being scrutinized. People who hate Trump’s guts are being interviewed, rumors are being chased down and whatever is found will be put into ads by Super PACS that will spend millions to saturate the airwaves. What will they come up with? Well, as Donald Rumsfeld might say, that is one of the, “unknown unknowns — the ones we don’t know we don’t know. And if one looks throughout the history of our country and other free countries, it is the latter category that tend to be the difficult ones.”

Whatever happens with Trump, I’m grateful to him for his immigration plan, for hammering Jeb Bush into the ground and for shaking things up in a Republican Party that has grown stagnant and unresponsive to the people that have put the GOP in office. Whether he wins or loses in the end, as long as Trump’s involved, it will probably be one Hell of a show!


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To: Kaslin
Even his shortlist of actual achievements dwarves anything the rats could assemble between all of them.

There no contest on competency.

OTOH, as always proceed with caution. I support Cruz but love Trump! It is still a long way to November.

I hope they BOTH make it...

81 posted on 08/29/2015 6:17:40 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: mkjessup; Fresh Wind
C. Edmund isn’t blowing smoke here, I’m aware of who he has ghostwritten for, and while I likewise cannot go into detail due to confidentiality issues, the man is on the level and I more than respect what he has accomplished in his ‘outside-FR’ life. ;)

Yes, well, thanks for that....but I gotta tell you, that's gonna irk some of the doubters and the haters......

82 posted on 08/29/2015 6:17:58 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again)
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To: 4rcane

He sure doesn’t need to spend money on media. They cover him day and night, for free.


83 posted on 08/29/2015 6:20:13 AM PDT by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: Catsrus
Getting rid of the Jebster WOULD be a wonderful thing, and no small thing at that.

None of us know how this is going to play out, nor do you know that Ted can't fill the shoes of the Donald yet. Nor do we know if Donald can fill the shoes of the Donald yet.

I wouldn't be so despairing as to say the Donald is our only hope (Obiwan), nor so foolish as to say that Donald can't become a great president.

The point I'm making, is there is a looong way to go, and it's going to be a rockin, rollin, roller coaster ride. We need to buckle up, do what we can, and hope we get off the ride in one piece.

84 posted on 08/29/2015 6:21:05 AM PDT by Lakeshark
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To: blackdog
It is certain that all of the fathers on that street would be better presidents than most of the GOPe choices.
85 posted on 08/29/2015 6:27:55 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Section 20.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
Yes, well, thanks for that....but I gotta tell you, that's gonna irk some of the doubters and the haters......

Rocky IV: "If *I* can change, and *YOU* can change, then EVERYBODY can change!!" [ADRIAN!!!!]

:)
86 posted on 08/29/2015 6:29:25 AM PDT by mkjessup (Trump is the barbarian at the RINO gate, Cruz is his 'inside man' and I LIKE it !!)
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To: Leep

He only appears to be strengthening.


87 posted on 08/29/2015 6:33:32 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Kaslin

To me, his biggest weakness is his mouth. Most people love it when he throws verbal bombs at his opposition, and says things that most others are afraid to say, but if he says something just a little too far over the line, just once, it can all come to an end... and the media is all too anxious to take ANY word and twist it against him at any moment.


88 posted on 08/29/2015 6:35:13 AM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: odawg
Aren’t you contradicting yourself?

Nope. He's been consistent on the things I mentioned.

89 posted on 08/29/2015 6:38:12 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: onedoug
"He only appears to be strengthening."

As long as he doesn't begin to visit a tanning booth. How long until Trump goes after Boehner and McConnell like he has knocked off his critics of late?

Shots at Boehner and McConnell followed by a standing ovation from 20,000 people will make those two feel so loved!

90 posted on 08/29/2015 6:44:31 AM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: Dr. Sivana

It’s just a saying, I hope you realize that.


91 posted on 08/29/2015 6:47:03 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: blackdog

Excellent point?


92 posted on 08/29/2015 6:49:00 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: BRL

Is that what you’re hoping for?


93 posted on 08/29/2015 6:49:54 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin
I pffft'ed at the whole article, thinking the author damned with faint praise. But I'll say this (I posted similar thoughts on The Alinsky Man thread by Richard Fernandez):
The truth is that not everybody can be the Alinsky Man.
We all wish that now that Trump has shown the way (by crossing over the Rubicon), our own preferred candidate will simply pick up his battle and lead us to the other side.
It doesn’t really work that way.
For some people (including FReepers here), abortion is their #1 issue; others, religion; yet it seem more people find illegal immigration is the top priority so far. For that, I am grateful for the general public opinion as we face a foreign invasion in our country.

Recently folks who come here illegally (and even legal immigrants, including those ME refugees Obama's been importing) don't want to be assimilated and becoming one of us. They just want to take over the country. And we have politicians of every stripes and media being very accommodating to it. In other countries, it is an all out war.

Finally I'll post what Subotai Bahadur wrote on the Belmont Club: "Either the country is worth defending, or it is not a country." (Rant off)

94 posted on 08/29/2015 6:55:35 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: Kaslin

Quite frankly, none of these six items present a problem for Trump.


95 posted on 08/29/2015 6:56:00 AM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: jsanders2001
Did you miss the Fox News Debate on August 6? If he wasn't vetted there, than I don't know what vetting is. And I am sure he will be more grilled in the other coming debates.

If they had only grilled 0bama like that, than that arrogant pos occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave would have never been elected.

I am sure you know that.

96 posted on 08/29/2015 6:56:12 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: basil

I don’t know if you realize, but Senator Cruz and Donald Trump get along very well


97 posted on 08/29/2015 7:05:16 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

Yes—I realize that. My dream team would be a Cruz/Trump ticket, in either order.


98 posted on 08/29/2015 7:07:07 AM PDT by basil
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To: Kaslin
1) How Conservative Will He Turn Out To Be?
He is conservative the one issue, immigration, that is of vital importance to the White (for now) majority. His potential error here is going too soft and allowing more emphasis on the "... and expedite their return bit." White people are what decides elections not tiny (or even large) changes in Hispanic support.

Regarding conservatism: it is not like 'conservative' Supreme Court appointees have done a whole lot of good on issues conservatives care about. We have gay marriage and retain Obama Care. Conservatives appear to have trouble defunding Planned Parenthood even after Gosnell and the baby-parts-express revelations. With Trump we might win on the wall and be no worse off on other things.

5) He May Be Reluctant To Spend Money:
Actually this could be a problem. It is not clear how much of wealth is liquid. If much of his wealth is actually embodied in buildings and the abstract concept of 'brand' he may have much less than a ¡Jeb! size budget. He may be relying on bluff-and-bluster and a lot of free air time. So far that seems to working but there will likely be a time when he needs to spend decent sums of money, on ads and ground-game. If that happens will he decide golf and helicopters are more fun than presidential runs?

99 posted on 08/29/2015 7:11:07 AM PDT by evilC
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To: Kaslin

> If they had only grilled 0bama like that, than that arrogant pos occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave would have never been elected.

I am sure you know that.

His path was paved and paid for at a young age obviously (grandparents, FMD, Tom Ayers / Bill Ayers, Saudi Arab connections, Soros, etc...all socialists / Communists except for the Arab connection). Hell O reportedly told a postman he was going to be a president while walking out of Tom Ayers house, an engineer in Russia wa sold by a KGB agent that a black man named Barack from Hawaii was going to be president later in the early 90’s. For all intents and purposes O is Rosemary’s Baby and Damien Thorne combined.


100 posted on 08/29/2015 7:13:55 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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