Posted on 08/23/2015 1:03:54 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
If you look on the surface, one might think that the polls indicate that Donald Trump is the best candidate to go up against the Democrats in the general election. As history has shown, the ability to get support within ones own party is not always an indicator of ability to win in the general election. In fact, one can argue that either Rick Santorum or Newt Gingrich were more likely to defeat President Obama in 2012, though well never know.
Before we get into the list of candidates, lets look at general election winning attributes that work in the general election. Its different than the primaries for a few reasons. First, there are more people paying attention to the two candidates going for the goal than a plethora of candidates vying for the nod. Second, the ability to go head-to-head is different from the ability to stand out in a pack. Lastly, the ability to fend off tumultuous attacks from the other side is imperative and less prevalent during the primaries.
The Attributes
Lets look at the seven attributes required to win the general election.
◾Promises: Theres always a punchline attached whenever people bring up campaign promises, but they resonate. Looking at the campaign promises of the last three Presidents, we can see that many of them were not met despite two terms each, but that doesnt stop the American voters from holding onto hope that someone will come along who keeps their promises.
◾Effectiveness: The Republicans almost had President Obama during the last election based upon ineffectiveness. His campaign was able to spin it to give them another term to achieve their goals. Again, the lack of effectiveness of both Mitt Romney and Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) 53% helped to secure their second place finishes in the general election.
◾Upbringing: History counts in the primaries. People want someone who came from humble beginnings, who worked their way to the top and who had experiences that echoed the plight of the average American.
◾Skeletons: In American culture, it seems as if the skeletons are more easily forgiven now than they were in the past. The last three Presidents all had skeletons that should have sank them before their second term, but if something the size of John Edwards or Gary Harts ever comes to light for a candidate, this can play a role.
◾Debate Skills: There was hope for the Republicans after the first debate between Romney and Obama. The polls shifted after an excellent performance by Romney compared to a mediocre showing by President Obama. The President turned it around for by the second debate, but one still has to wonder of Gingrich couldnt have done much better. This time around, the likely Democratic candidates are all poor debaters other than Martin OMalley, so this particular trait might be able to seal the deal.
◾Charisma: Bill Clinton won on charisma. Barack Obama has even more. This can definitely play a role in the primaries, particularly with an electorate that has youthful voters growing in ranks.
◾Polarity: Those who polarize the electorate are the ones that usually win. The left knows this. For some reason, the Republican Establishment has failed to grasp this, force feeding us Romneys, McCains, and Doles. George W. Bush, Clinton, and Obama were both polarizing. The more the other side hates you, the easier it is to win.
The Best Shots at a GOP Victory
With all of that established, its important to remember the wild card in this equation. Im not one who believes that Hillary Clinton is going to be nominated and Im pretty sure Bernie Sanders will fade over time. This means that its wide open and the opponent has a dramatic effect on the who would be more effective against them. For example, someone like Ben Carson would fair better against Clinton than others while Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) 100% would be the perfect foil against Sanders. We cant make decisions based upon this factor, so well have to leave it out.
Heres how I see the top GOP candidates in reverse order of their ability to win the general election.
5. Donald Trump
Despite his large lead in the early polls, his no-holds-barred style will be revealed as false and his chevalier attitude will be shown to be a front for a man that is little more than an egomaniac. Still, he appeals to the uninformed voters and there are plenty of those out there so he would have a chance. His debate skills are questionable and he likely has several large skeletons in his closet that the Democrats are holding until after the primaries. His shining lights that put him into the top five is that hes polarizing, effective (in business, at least), and has the type of charisma that appeals to many.
4. Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) 92%
Rubio seems to be 8-12 years premature in his run. Hes a rising star with a strong upbringing and the potential to be a great debater, but hes still green. His charisma is strong at first but he seems to wane after you hear him speak a few times. If he can make powerful promises that are achievable, he may be a strong choice, particularly against Clinton or OMalley.
3. Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) 87%
If it werent for Donald Trump, Paul would be the great polarizing force amongst the candidates. Unfortunately, his reputation may not be as polar as his actual beliefs; of all the candidates his promises and effectiveness might be too far off the map, particularly when it comes to foreign relations. He was a disappointment during the first GOP debate, taking shots at Chris Christie and others that didnt paint him in a great light. Still, he should have the charisma to win and his upbringing as Ron Pauls son can be an ace in the hole.
2. Ben Carson
If it werent for some skeletons in his closet, he might be the best shot the GOP has. Im still undecided about whether his soft spoken nature is a positive or a negative. It really depends on how profound his promises are. His biggest upside is that his upbringing is the epitome of the American dream presenting a man from a poor family that rose to greatness through hard work, intelligence, and perseverance. Depending on who gets the nomination, Carson might be the ideal running mate.
1. Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) 100%
Of all the GOP candidates, Cruz is the most complete package. His early promises are resonating. He has proven that he will take a shot at fulfilling his promises and while he hasnt been successful, it demonstrates that he can be effective if given the power of the Presidency. His upbringing is nearly ideal, second only to Carsons as a great story. If there were big skeletons, we likely would have seen them already. With the charisma of a Southern Baptist preacher and debate skills that match any candidate in recent memory, the only other criteria to be checked off is one that hes known for as Senator. The guy polarizes in a way that galvanizes. Thats why he is the best chance the GOP has of securing the White House in 2016.
The Others
Clearly missing is the #2 in most polls, Jeb Bush. He cannot win, not against Clinton, not against Sanders not against anyone. The Bush family baggage aside, he has such negative charisma that its a wonder hes Ws brother.
Carly Fiorina is interesting and came close to cracking the top 5, but she hasnt been exceptionally effective. There are a couple of big skeletons in her leadership closet, most notably merging HP with Compaq before laying off 30,000 US employees. Her upbringing could be a negative as well, having attended a private school in London and dropping out of UCLA Law School after one semester.
Scott Walker is a winner but under the scrutiny that comes with being on the national stage rather than just the Wisconsin stage, he looks like someone who would not withstand the barrage from the left if nominated. This is a shame because he has some great ideas, but hes not the right candidate to put up against the Democrats.
None of the rest really have a good chance of winning.
Its far from scientific but its a thought-out analysis of what we can expect from the candidates. Complacency is the killer in this equation. The presence of weak Democratic candidates is no excuse for not selecting the best possible GOP candidate. The countrys future is hanging by a thread. We cant afford to lose this one.
One of the best articles I’ve read in a long time.
When you have 10 billion dollars of leverage and a Third Party as leverage on top of that......things are different.....and when you have twice the percentages than anyone else ....and leading by at least 10 percent.
Well that is something never seen before. So all the old equations must be redone with these additional values.
Trump has the media afraid and shaking. Obama had the Race card
DONALD HAS THE TRUMP CARD.
Good thoughts Leni. Where was the outrage when McCain got the nomination?
Crickets. Tells me all I need to know.
No it’s not. I like thinking in terms of Trump plus Cruz myself. Together I’m hoping they get over 50% of the primary and caucus votes.
I’d like Cruz to finish far enough ahead of the pack, for Trump to have to consider him automatically for V.P.
Go test it. Stream one of Trump's speeches onto a TV at your local bar or coffee shop, etc.
Unfiltered, he's grabbed people's attention, kept it, and even turned a few liberals to his cause. I've tried everywhere from a local craft brewery to Dennys to a Motel 6.
>> Jeb Bush . . . cannot win, not against Clinton, not against Sanders <<
You’re telling us that Sanders, an openly avowed socialist and atheist Jew, could carry Ohio, Virginia, Florida, Colorado, New Hampshire, Iowa and the other swing states? You gotta be kidding us. Unless DT runs as a 3rd party candidate, Bush certainly could beat Sanders.
But then, so could any other current GOP contender, even Gilmore.
Could Bush beat Madame Rodham in a one-on-one? Until a few days ago I would have said no. But now with HRC’s email felonies so much in the limelight, I’d give Jeb maybe a two per cent advantage over her. Still, I think the greater odds are that she won’t be the Dhimmi nominee. Get ready for Uncle Joe!
I could beat Sanders.
America is not known for picking the best and brightest...
UNLESS the other options are so damned weak.. their pitiful.
I'm a Cruzer... but honesty think Trump is a poseur..
saying some things BUT prepared to do OTHER things..
you know... like Obama..
I doubt he is the happy free hearted guy(CONSERVATIVE) some think he is..
THEY are dreaming of themselves with all his money what would THEY DO.. "PROJECTING"..
Ted Cruz is best and brightest of them all.. agreed..
TRUMP... gives me the "watch him he's tricky" feeling..
SOoooo I have been...
Rucker might be somewhat more successful as a commentator if he had more than a distant relationship with the English language.
“George W. Bush, Clinton, and Obama were both polarizing.”
“someone like Ben Carson would fair better against...”
“ and his chevalier attitude”
Are you saying Trump is a pagen king?
So far, Donald Trump has not had even a minimal vetting to be President and there are potentially serious skeletons in his closet that could really hurt him, especially with moral majority conservatives.
Trump is not even close to being a conservative in any way shape or form and he is at best a socially liberal and economically moderate Libertarian.
It is in the interests of the Democrats to wait until after Trump has won the nomination to start a Trump assassination hit job
This is the risk Republicans run if they go all in for Trump.
He could be shown to be unelectable by the Democrat smear machine after he wins the Republican Nomination.
On the other hand, Trump does seem to be amazingly impervious to such attacks up till now so this may backfire on the Dems if Trump makes it to the nomination.
Trump would make a much better than average president and I am 100% confident he would appoint very highly qualified and capable people to run his administration.
>> One of the best articles Ive read in a long time <<
Uh, I thought we weren’t supposed to read the articles — just comment on the headlines, the source and maybe the first paragraph. What have I been missing?
>> Are you saying Trump is a pagen king? <<
More like a “pagent” king, IMHO.
Ben Carson is #2? What universe is he living in?
>> Rucker might be somewhat more successful as a commentator if he had more than a distant relationship with the English language <<
It’s called:
1. read and revise your first, second and third drafts before sending;
and/or
2. run everything by your editor.
Clinton
1) Cruz
2) Fiorina (has been attacking Clinton effectively)
3) Rubio (also focused on Clinton)
4) Huckabee
5) Walker
(Trump is too friendly with the Clintons)
Sanders (socialist)
1) Paul (the perfect anti-Sanders)
2) Trump (capitalist vs socialist - no contest)
3) Cruz
4) Walker
5) Fiorina (another capitalist)
O'Malley
1) Cruz
2) Paul
3) Trump
4) Huckabee
5) Walker
Biden
1) Anything on two legs
2) Anything on legs
3) Anything with a pulse
4) Any organic matter
5) Anything with carbon in it
Which Presidential Candidate Leads Among Evangelicals? Right Now It’s Donald Trump
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3321515/posts
Why Evangelicals Worship Trump
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/3327749/posts
He won’t. He’ll drag out some James Baker or CFR type or Fiorina. All his FR supporters will tell us what a smart move it is.
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