Posted on 08/19/2015 10:22:10 AM PDT by drpix
An article posted by E. Pluribus Unum on another thread - but worthy of its own thread.
It was published in 2011 but has become very pertinent today: Trump, Levin and company are telling the truth about "anchor babies," while the Democrats, RINOs and the media have been perpetuating the liberal lie.
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I posted your link as its own thread. Thanks!
I posted your link as its own thread. Thanks!
Tell this to O’Reilly and Dana Perino and also the Munchkin, Judge Napolitano...
Name 1 country that allows births in a nation citizens , other that what most consider legal here, other than US?
EVERYONE on FOX is telling lies about this. They are also saying that he wants to get RID of 14th Amendment.
My sister was born in Germany and has dual citizenship. It may surprise you to know that most countries do that but who wants to be like most countries?
Actually, Ted Cruz had dual citizenship of US and Canadian, all because he was born in that country. Our founders had a much better idea. Like all who know why the 14th was enacted, just barely, it was intended only for the time of those slaves who were brought here unwillingly. But I have also heard lately the left is raising that same argument for the illegals coming here to get the US stamp on their kids.
Who knew "birthright" would have become so pertinent in 2 days. That's the value of Trump - even to those who intent to vote for someone else.
Only 2 developed countries: The US & Canada.
Also, Judge Napolitano insists that courts have settled this issue. I like the Judge, but I am one who does not believe that SCOTUS is the interpreter of the constitution via Mulberry vs Madison. BTW court doesn't believe this as well as it overturned itself with segregation laws.
We all know or most of us. Trump wants to execute laws as they were originally intended under the Amendment.
Ping
Yes, “subject to the jurisdiction” means a lot more than occupying space within the borders of the US. Illegals are not draftable into service, cannot hold office, cannot vote etc, so they are NOT “subject tot he jurisdiction”.
Been sayig this for years. What has been so hard to understand?
An American born of German immigrants to the US, in the US was visiting Germany just prior to a WW, for get which, he was called into the wermacht and objected- the German court found that he was not “subject” to the jurisdiction of the German government as he was a natural citizen of the US....
Why cannot we get that basic principle?
The 14th was clearly aimed at granting citizenship to non-persons (slaves/former slaves) who were born in the US prior to he civil war and following. Prior to this they were property, then “emancipated” property by the illegal declaration of a president ( due process. Of course slavery/invol servitude for other than conviction of crime in a court is immoral.
Antigua & Barbuda
Argentina
Barbados
Belize
Bolivia
Brazil
Canada
Chile
Columbia
Dominica
Ecuador
El Salvador
Fiji
Grenda
Guatemala
Guyana
Hondura
Jamaica
Mexico
Nicaragua
Panama
Paraguay
Peru
Saint Kits & Nevis
Saint Lucia
Saint Vincent & the Grenadines
Trinidad & Tobago
Uruguay
Venezuela
You asked. My reply should not be interpreted as support for birthright citizenship to children of illegal aliens.
If the 14th Amendment is so golden on “birthright citizenship,” then why did Congress have to pass a separate law to give Native Americans citizenship?!?
When these liberal idiots can explain WHY Congress had to pass a separate law, specifically granting American citizenship to Native Americans born in the United States in 1924, when the 14th was ratified in 1868?!?!
True. In 1924 Congress passed the Indian Citizenship Act to who were not already US citizens or allegiance and not under the jurisdiction of the United States.
Trump has provided the opportunity to teach the nation about it's history and citizenship.
O’REilly and this Dana Perino and even Judge Napolatano all showed their ignorance. I am quite sure now that O’REilly has a ghost writer doing his books for him. He decides the story to tell, and someelse does the research and the writing. This guy shows his ignorance frequently, then shouts the person down, like he tried to do with Trump.
Trump, met with Sessions. If he’s read anything by Ann Coulter or listened to her, he’d also know that he’s on solid footing.
The anchor baby thing was a foot note opinion by some judge. The 14th Amendment had nothing to do with illegals being born here. It pertained to slaves.
Trump is right to challenge this.
GEE, I wonder if his CORRECT POSITION on the “PROGRESSIVE” PERVERTED 14th AMENDMENT has anything to do with Trump’s rise in the polls? I just PRAY he’s SINCERE!!!
A prime technique for bringing down an existing social order is to OVERLOAD and OVERWHELM the governmental systems, creating economic and social chaos. What’s going on today is straight out of Saul Alinsky’s “Rules for Radicals” and the Cloward-Piven Strategy named for the Marxist maniac couple who tutored obazo on its finer points. Because we have NOT sent home 20 million illegals, WE NOW HAVE THE FISCAL BANKRUPTCY AND ARE CLOSING IN ON THE SOCIAL CHAOS. BOTH parties have been applying those methods but obozo, who studied those methods under Bill Ayers and later became a devotee of Cloward-Piven strategy while a so-called “community organizer,” is using ALL the gadgets in the radical toolkit. If it continues much longer, YOUR kids are doomed to life as serfs in a nation that will more resemble Nazi Germany or the old USSR than the America the Founders ATTEMPTED to leave us.
My niece was an OB/GYN who took her pre-med at HAAAAVVAAAAADDD! Needless to say, she emerged from that experience a LIBERAL. (She stopped catching babies and went into research when her malpractice premiums ultimately began to exceed her annual earnings.)
Upon completing her medical training at yet another liberal university, she interned at a hospital near the border in “Kahlifonia.”
It was there that a mystical transformation took place: She began to connect the heavy deductions from the slave wage GROSS EARNINGS for which she busted her butt for as many as 72 virtually sleepless hours with the taxis and jalopies regularly sliding to the curb in front of the ER.
Many of them contained pregnant illegals who won the race to deliver their babies HERE. She caught many of those “anchor babies” who, under the current — and COMPLETELY ERRONEOUS —interpretation of the 14th Amendment were IMMEDIATELY NEW AMERICANS. The mother – who, obviously, could not care for the child if she were back in her native land — could not be deported now even if the INS and the political bosses WANTED her deported (which, because these illegals can generally be counted on to vote the liberal line, they DO NOT). And as the mother of a new US citizen, the woman could remain here for about as long as she cared to – and that was usually for life.
(NOTE: I’ll post several links to more information on the 14th Amendment at the end of my little rant. It’s a fascinating and disturbing story.
Most of those patients were welfare recipients and the deliveries were charity cases: The bill for the hospital’s – and HER services – were routinely spread over the bills of those who DO pay. And what the other users of those facilities don’t cover went back to the taxpayers.
And since my family member was now a taxpayer, they were costing HER.
And while she may not exactly be a libertarian, today she has come a long way from Harvard.
And just so the bleeders who might see this don’t think me some sort of ethnocentric bigot, I submit this problem is MORE than just about illegals.
Before my oldest daughter was born at University Hospital in Cleveland in 1967, I sat in the main lobby as welfare mother-to-be after welfare mother-to-be waddled through the door to the maternity ER for THEIR free deliveries.
Before WE could take OUR daughter home, I had to cough up over 3 grand. And that was a great deal of dough in 1967, especially for a guy who’d just finished a 4 year turn in the USAF.
As I wrote the check, I remembered the magazine article I’d recently read by a hospital administrator from Massachusetts who admitted that all US hospitals practiced a form of medical Marxism, spreading the costs of care for indigents over the bills of those who DO pay for care. Given the move to socialism here, it probably will never be otherwise: Not counting Byzantine complexity and confusion, government produces – and has — NOTHING unless it first takes it from some PERSON. SOMEBODY ALWAYS PAYS.
The illegals have been using the emergency rooms of our hospitals for their health-care, almost always at no charge to them. That cost is either spread over other users or the taxpayers. We have seen a national epidemic of hospital closings due to their insolvency, much of it caused by the burden of trying to render care to PEOPLE WHO SHOULDN’T EVEN BE HERE, denying care to native-born citizens who normally pay their bills and their taxes. And, I submit, the drain the illegals impose on the welfare system is a major reason for our national insolvency and the impending social chaos. (Thank you grubby leftist, power-hungry RINO politicians and bureaucrats!)
Look, I have a big enough problem paying for the 3rd and 4th generation slackers and welfare bums who were BORN here.
It’s long past time we stopped paying for those who were not.
PS: Sadly, we lost my niece to cancer in May of 2011 – at age 50!
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AFTER RANT POST:
For a short, Reader’s Digest version of the ORIGINAL intent of the 14th Amendment, go here: http://pocusa.info/NLArchive22_14thAmndt.html . For a more comprehensive explanation of the events surrounding the amendment, go here: http://www.14thamendment.us/index.html )
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