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The EPA is polluting our rivers. Where’s the outrage? ( Colorado, NM ..)
THE AMERICAN COUNCIL ON SCIENCE AND HEALTH ^ | August 7, 2015 | Nicholas Staropoli

Posted on 08/08/2015 12:16:09 AM PDT by george76

The EPA announced that some of its regulators working in Colorado dumped a million gallons of orange waste water containing sediments and metals into the Animas river. In their defense the machinery they were working with was described as heavy so there’s that. Oh, and they said it was an accident. The companies responsible for Love Canal in the 1970s probably didn’t realize they could use that as an excuse.

If a company had done it, there would be Congressional hearings and fines and calls to action, but a spokesman for the Colorado Parks and Wildlife said there’s nothing that can be done to stop the heavy flow of contaminated water from devastating the environment. Local experts expect the spill to have catastrophic effects on the fish and wildlife of the area but humans are also at danger too. Officials are warning all downstream residents to avoid any and all water activities and to use water sparingly until the issue is resolved.

If this spill was caused by some big business entity (except maybe bullet-proof Apple) Neil Young would have already written an album about how the CEOs deserve a life sentence in prison; GreenPeace would be staging “die-ins” for the fallen fish; Barbara Boxer would’ve been on the house floor crying

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By all accounts it was an accident, but so what? Deepwater Horizon was an accident, BP did not do it on purpose, but they did not get out of paying their 20 billion dollar fine by playing the “accident” card in the Gulf of Mexico. Worse, their apology was mocked and the company was vilified then and still is. Union Carbide couldn’t shrug their shoulders and say “accident” about Bhopal either.

The EPA and its leaders should be held accountable the same way.

(Excerpt) Read more at acsh.org ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: California; US: Colorado; US: Florida; US: New Mexico; US: New York; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: agenda21; animasriver; colorado; epa; erinbrockovich; goldkingmine; navajonation; polluting; unitednations; water
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1 posted on 08/08/2015 12:16:10 AM PDT by george76
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To: george76

The EPA is above the law, don’t you know.


2 posted on 08/08/2015 12:24:56 AM PDT by flaglady47 (TRUMP ROCKS!)
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To: george76

NUH-UH!

Local NBC station here in MONTANA said NOTHING about EPA (’cept they wusa lukin inta it)

Shode a great buncha pitchas of orange and blu wata,

Said it was a shame and the epa was lukin inta it

Havta belivem cause steve fetviet says they do all the best and tell all the truths and both sideas stories.

Shure wood bnice to kno who dun that to the watur,


3 posted on 08/08/2015 12:25:15 AM PDT by This_far (Mandatory insurance! I thought it was about health care?)
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To: This_far

http://www.nbcmontana.com/news/epa-crew-accidentally-turns-animas-river-orange/34604774

It’s been awhile... NBC MT is using CNN and not saying that it was the EPA that caused the spill


4 posted on 08/08/2015 12:32:30 AM PDT by This_far (Mandatory insurance! I thought it was about health care?)
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To: flaglady47
There's tens of thousands of these abandoned mines in Colorado, with acidic drainage. Even more thru-out the west.

If they had turned this area around Silverton into a Superfund site, they would have had plenty of money to do it right. But that is bad for the tourist business.

5 posted on 08/08/2015 1:06:59 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin

The point is ..... it was the EPA that created the spill !!

The wonderful government!

(on my Montana news, they wouldn’t say that it was an EPA mistake, goof, blunder

Yeah, here in MONTANA we also have an equal number of mines, active, abandoned and not listed.

Butte is a huge super fund site as are others,,,

Basin MT is also...

What do YOU plan to do about it? (how much of YOUR money should go to remediation... anywhere?)


6 posted on 08/08/2015 1:19:19 AM PDT by This_far (Mandatory insurance! I thought it was about health care?)
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To: george76

ain’t it good to be king.


7 posted on 08/08/2015 1:21:36 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Ben Ficklin

I think they might not WANT to address this competently. They want to further the meme of Bad! Bad! Mine!


8 posted on 08/08/2015 1:23:11 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: This_far
"it was the EPA that created the spill"

That is your convoluted logic, based on a superficial knowledge.

There is no way to solve the problem. They can try to plug a particular source but it will find another route.

9 posted on 08/08/2015 1:34:17 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin; MinuteGal; hoosiermama; onyx

“There’s tens of thousands of these abandoned mines in Colorado, with acidic drainage. Even more thru-out the west.”

Interesting. I lived for a year in a little mountain town above Boulder, named Ward. I love Colorado, just not the liberals that now infest too much of it, lol. But where I lived in the foothills many years ago was positively beautiful, and at night up there it was if the stars were balancing on the very tip of your nose, they were so close.

I lived in a beautiful log cabin on the other side of Boulder Creek. You had to walk across a wooden footbridge to get to my cabin. The creek went down into a little gorge where you could see the trout frolicking where the water pooled into a basin. Hummingbirds came to the feeders on the porch around my cabin, and there I resided with my pot bellied stove, my two dogs, and my car without snow tires. It was the lack of snow tires that finally forced me to move down out of the foothills, lol. That was when I was in my mountain woman phase, when young and fancy free. I remember it fondly.


10 posted on 08/08/2015 1:46:43 AM PDT by flaglady47 (TRUMP ROCKS!)
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"when I was in my mountain woman phase, when young and fancy free"

Myself. The summer after I graduated from high school(1962), I worked in Colo resort town. Lots of trout fishing and 3.2 beer.

11 posted on 08/08/2015 2:03:21 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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“I worked in Colo resort town. Lots of trout fishing and 3.2 beer.”

What town was that?


12 posted on 08/08/2015 2:18:34 AM PDT by flaglady47 (TRUMP ROCKS!)
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To: flaglady47

Grand Lake.


13 posted on 08/08/2015 2:28:15 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: george76
The EPA announced that some of its regulators working in Colorado dumped a million gallons of orange waste water containing sediments and metals into the Animas river. In their defense the machinery they were working with was described as heavy so there’s that.

I’ll ask the question at its most basic.

Why are regulators operating machinery?

It’s not their job.

At my job when they are preaching error prevention one of the things they say is ‘Stay in your roll.”

If you are a supervisor; supervise. If you start doing work with the workers you are no longer doing your job of supervising (oversight, making sure the job is done correctly).

If these regulators were operating machinery they were out of roll and not regulating.

Typically site reclamation is done by contractors or the site owners. I have never heard of the EPA getting their hands dirty.

14 posted on 08/08/2015 2:36:28 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: george76

EPA should be eliminated.


15 posted on 08/08/2015 3:19:49 AM PDT by exnavy (Common sense seems to be uncommon these days.)
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To: george76

Awful!
We camped beside that river, rode theDurango-Silverton railroad that runs along and above ( some places waaay above) it.
Lots of kayak traffic.
Had a private co.done this someone would be in jail.


16 posted on 08/08/2015 4:00:58 AM PDT by Vinnie
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To: flaglady47

Just wait until the courts or congress demand the epa turn over documents related to this incident. Hmmmm. Hard drives erased, docs shredded by “mistake”, participants on assignment out of the country, blah, blah, blah.... We should be used to the routine by now. The epa may have been important at one time and in a limited capacity may be now but seems they cause more problems than they solve.

P.S. Dodged an epa bullet yesterday when the puddles in my yard dried up before anyone could report the new navigable waterways.


17 posted on 08/08/2015 5:15:45 AM PDT by rktman (Served in the Navy to protect the rights of those that want to deprive me of mine. Kinda weird.)
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To: rktman
"P.S. Dodged an epa bullet yesterday when the puddles in my yard dried up before anyone could report the new navigable waterways."

Just wait for the new rules that will require you to maintain each puddle in its original state after the historic boundaries are mapped and verified by a government committee.

18 posted on 08/08/2015 5:29:13 AM PDT by Truth29
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LOL! I may be illegally altering the natural flow by filling in all the low spots in my yard. Guess I’ll have run off issues now. No winning with these clowns.


19 posted on 08/08/2015 5:45:48 AM PDT by rktman (Served in the Navy to protect the rights of those that want to deprive me of mine. Kinda weird.)
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To: george76

The EPA was looking for violations.

I suspect that finding none, they decided to create the crisis.


20 posted on 08/08/2015 6:21:40 AM PDT by G Larry (Obama is replicating the instruments of the fall of Rome)
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