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Trump’s Dismissal of McCain’s Heroism Shows Lack of Judgment and Decency, And Is Also Dead Wrong
REASON ^ | 07/19/2015 | Matt Welch

Posted on 07/19/2015 4:17:39 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

What has gone underplayed in today's widespread outrage over Donald Trump's dismissal of John McCain's war heroism is that the GOP national-poll front-runner's comments, besides demonstrating an idiocratic lack of basic human judgment and decency, are also dead wrong.

Because this is Donald Trump, and Donald Trump is a vulgar anti-intellect who cannot string a coherent paragraph together, his full statement contradicts itself several times within 57 short words. So let's just focus on the bolded part from his remarks:

He's not a war hero. He's a war hero because he was captured. I like people that weren't captured—OK, I hate to tell ya. He's a war hero because he was captured, OK? And I believe perhaps he is a war hero, but right now, he said some very bad things about a lot of people.

As someone who wrote a very critical book about the Arizona senator, titled McCain: The Myth of a Maverick, I am more familiar than most television entertainers with the weak points in John McCain's record. His experience as a POW is not one of them. Back in October 2008, the people making the McCain's-no-hero arguments were not Republican presidential contenders, but liberal journalists, such as those who work for Rolling Stone. As I responded to their findings back then in the L.A. Times,

[T]he most pertinent part of McCain's heroism [is that by] all accounts, his noisy resistance to everyday humiliations, and his profane outburst at a made-for-propaganda Christmas service in 1968, gave great strength to his fellow POWs. McCain was an inveterate communicator in Hanoi, tapping code like mad to keep his comrades' spirits up and even acting as chaplain when conditions in the prisons started to improve.


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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: forrestal; heroism; keating5; mccain; mccain4isis; primarymccain; trump; vietnam
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Which is to say, the main driver of McCain's heroism was not the fact of his capture, it's how he comported himself under circumstances more trying than 99.9% of us could imagine, let alone endure.
1 posted on 07/19/2015 4:17:39 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMcYqtayU7c


2 posted on 07/19/2015 4:19:09 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Conservatism: Now home to liars too. And we'll support them. Yea... GOPe)
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Sorry Matt ol' pal.

What a 'hero' is is a highly subjective thing.

I'll continue to think for myself, thanks. I will not jump on your bandwagon.

3 posted on 07/19/2015 4:20:03 PM PDT by skeeter ( THAT)
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McCain is a survivor. But then I’ve always thought of McCain as dumb as a bag of rocks and a human wrecking ball of the republican party.


4 posted on 07/19/2015 4:20:14 PM PDT by ckilmer (q)
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I find it most instructive how the 2008 GOP Candidate was mocked by the liberal press for his Nationalism (stopping his campaign for the 2008 financial crisis Senate votes) yet is now praised when the threat to their ‘Dear Leader’ Obama is passed.


5 posted on 07/19/2015 4:22:04 PM PDT by SES1066 (Quality, Speed or Economical - Any 2 of 3 except in government - 1 at best but never #3!)
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And has done zero in public office ever since and called the Republican base crazies. IMO F McCain.
His prior service was admirable but has nothing to do after his incarceration with his future performance in office.


6 posted on 07/19/2015 4:22:30 PM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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Trump’s Dismissal of McCain’s Heroism Shows Lack of Judgment and Decency, And Is Also Dead Wrong

That would be just terrible if it were true.

Sharyl Attkisson: Washington Post Smeared Donald Trump; Misrepresented His Comments on John McCain

Back to the drawing board, Matt.

7 posted on 07/19/2015 4:24:05 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason and rule of law. Prepare!)
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Amazing how the same people who trashed Trump for his immigration statements now love InSain. What are the odds?

Pray America is waking


8 posted on 07/19/2015 4:25:33 PM PDT by bray (Cruz to the White House)
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I’m being reminded daily of why I cancelled so many magazine subscriptions.


9 posted on 07/19/2015 4:25:47 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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Amazing how the same people who trashed Trump for his immigration statements now love InSain. What are the odds?

Pray America is waking

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Exactly!

Also interesting they have more venom for Trump than Jeb...hmmm?


10 posted on 07/19/2015 4:28:30 PM PDT by Artcore
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it's how he comported himself under circumstances more trying than 99.9% of us could imagine, let alone endure.

Or so he says.

11 posted on 07/19/2015 4:29:29 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER
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Reason.com - - just another liberal **** site.


12 posted on 07/19/2015 4:32:28 PM PDT by Mr Apple
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What he’s done to our country in the Senate has sadly negated all of that


13 posted on 07/19/2015 4:33:16 PM PDT by Sybeck1
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It’s amazing to me how some really lousy political leaders can become heroic icons to the masses due the manner of their deaths, and others can become heroes by being captured by an enemy, and then there are those who boldly go where others have already gone, but their names make them heroes in the eyes of at least the media.

Hero is one of several words in the English language deserving of the most abused award.


14 posted on 07/19/2015 4:34:03 PM PDT by rockinqsranch ((Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.))
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I see matt is keeping the false narrative alive. The occupation media must be eradicated with prejudice.


15 posted on 07/19/2015 4:34:54 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media. #2ndAmendmentMatters)
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Boy, I hate to say anything that might make me out to sound like Donald Trump so hopefully I will choose my words more carefully The Donald did.

That being said, here goes. I wish Sen. McCainez had as much concern for his fellow citizens as he did for his fellow prisoners.

I'm not questioning or doubting his resilience in the face of daily beatings and other degradations but he sure seems to be rather thin-skinned since then.

Okay. Commence flaming.

16 posted on 07/19/2015 4:36:54 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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How did he comport himself when he abandoned the POWs left behind and sealed the postwar investigative records?


17 posted on 07/19/2015 4:37:10 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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Did someone contact you with the old carrot and stick routine to get you to post this half-hearted defence of that nasty guy? Or are you merely defending you book? It doesn’t really matter, in any event you are defending the indefensible.


18 posted on 07/19/2015 4:37:32 PM PDT by SandwicheGuy (*The butter acts as a lubricant and speeds up the CPU*ou)
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Is it just me or does it seem like there has been more outrage expressed over Donald Trump’s comments about El Recto, Juan McCainez, than there has been about the cold-blooded murders of 4 Marines in Chatanooga, Tennessee?


19 posted on 07/19/2015 4:39:22 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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McCain is a survivor.

It's bigger than that.

He was offered the chance to go home, the North Vietnamese hoping to capitalize on the fact his dad was CNO, but he refused special treatment and abided by the code 'first in, first out'.

Assailing the service of a former POW when you're draft dodger for the very same war isn't very smart.

Asked why he didn’t serve, Trump said, “I had student deferments and ultimately had a medical deferment because of my feet. I had a bone spur.” But Trump said he did not recall which foot was injured and instructed reporters to look up his records.

20 posted on 07/19/2015 4:39:25 PM PDT by Gunslingr3
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