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The Deal Wasn’t About Iran’s Nukes
Commentary Magazine ^ | 7-16-15 | Abe Greenwald

Posted on 07/16/2015 2:34:48 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic

If you think the United States just struck a poor nuclear deal with Iran, you’re right; but if that’s your key takeaway, you’re missing the point. Iran’s nuclear program was last on the list of the Obama administration’s priorities in talking to Tehran. The administration readily caved on Iran’s nukes because it viewed the matter only as a timely pretense for achieving other cherished aims. These were: (1) preventing an Israeli attack on Iran; (2) transforming the United States into a more forgiving, less imposing power; (3) establishing diplomacy as a great American good in itself; (4) making Iran into a great regional power; and (5), ensuring the legacies of the president and secretary of state as men of vision and peace.

The administration has always viewed Israel as an intractable troublemaker and the main catalyst for the region’s woes. An Israeli strike on Iran, especially if supported by the United States, would have been yet another display of destabilizing Israeli aggression that put Middle East peace further out of reach. Barack Obama, therefore, repeatedly warned Israel against attacking Iran. Benjamin Netanyahu complied, and for his compliance White House officials taunted him in 2014 as a “chickenshit” whose window of opportunity had closed. That window is now barred. The Iran deal states that the U.S. will train Iranians to counter any sabotage attempts on its nuclear facilities and systems. This is aimed at frustrating Israeli action.

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The Iran negotiations became Obama’s magnum opus on the theme of listening. Americans listened to Iranians dictate terms, shoot down offers, insult the United States, and threaten allies. America has been humbled indeed.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iran; israel; johnkerry; lebanon; nucleardeal; obamalegacy; waronterror
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1 posted on 07/16/2015 2:34:48 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic; Nachum

Nachum list?


2 posted on 07/16/2015 2:35:16 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

The deal is about giving a green light fro Iran to Nuke Israel or someone else — like America.


3 posted on 07/16/2015 2:37:22 PM PDT by StormEye
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To: afraidfortherepublic
(1) preventing an Israeli attack on Iran;

That sure as hell is gonna backfire. Israel is now in a position where they are going to be FORCED to do it, long odds or not. Before the billions get un-frozen.


4 posted on 07/16/2015 2:38:19 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: afraidfortherepublic; All
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5 posted on 07/16/2015 2:38:42 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: afraidfortherepublic

“The Iran deal states that the U.S. will train Iranians to counter any sabotage attempts on its nuclear facilities and systems. This is aimed at frustrating Israeli action.”

WTF?


6 posted on 07/16/2015 2:38:48 PM PDT by headstamp 2
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To: afraidfortherepublic
(5), ensuring the legacies of the president and secretary of state as men of vision and peace.

Really? How did that work out for this guy?


7 posted on 07/16/2015 2:39:13 PM PDT by Fledermaus (To hell with the Republican Party. I'm done with them. If I want a Lib Dem I'd vote for one.)
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To: Fledermaus

That’s why you get your Peace Prize in advance.


8 posted on 07/16/2015 2:41:01 PM PDT by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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To: gundog

Rofl


9 posted on 07/16/2015 2:42:39 PM PDT by Fledermaus (To hell with the Republican Party. I'm done with them. If I want a Lib Dem I'd vote for one.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

This is what we deserve for letting a ballerina go toe to toe with heavyweights.


10 posted on 07/16/2015 2:42:52 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Conservatism: Now home to liars too. And we'll support them. Yea... GOPe)
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To: Fledermaus

I listened to the speech zero gave, on youtube. In the speech he said that the deal that was made is in writing, and he invited people to read it.

Has anybody seen it online yet, and has anybody here, read it?


11 posted on 07/16/2015 2:43:44 PM PDT by PrairieLady2
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I beg to differ with folks. This agreement isn’t about giving Iran a green light. It just gave Israel one, and I’m betting Israel goes first.


12 posted on 07/16/2015 2:44:14 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Conservatism: Now home to liars too. And we'll support them. Yea... GOPe)
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To: DoughtyOne

1. Imam Obamatollah has written his true loyalty & allegiance is to islam.

2. Imam Obamatollah has demonstrated his anti-Semitic hatred of Israel.

Logic dictates Imam Obamatollah has formally chosen his team - Iran - and they will now proceed to carry out their goals of destroying both “Little satan” and the “Great satan”.


13 posted on 07/16/2015 2:49:58 PM PDT by newfreep ("Evil succeeds when good men do nothting" - Edmund Burke)
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To: Fledermaus
You need to see the modern version of Peace In Our Times.


14 posted on 07/16/2015 2:52:03 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: afraidfortherepublic

(1) preventing an Israeli attack on Iran;
This deal pretty much FORCES Israel to attack Iran.
(2) transforming the United States into a more forgiving, less imposing power;
Translation: Make all the bad guys in the world think they can do whatever they want because we are a paper tiger. Mission accomplished.
(3) establishing diplomacy as a great American good in itself;
We haven’t establish diplomatic relations with Iran
(4) making Iran into a great regional power; and
Well, yes it does do that but that is a distinctly bad thing
(5), ensuring the legacies of the president and secretary of state as men of vision and peace
He was carefull to list this one last, but in reality it is the ONLY reason for this and some guys “legacy” is a ridiculously stupid reason for a foreign policy decision


15 posted on 07/16/2015 2:52:15 PM PDT by thorvaldr
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To: headstamp 2

Treason.


16 posted on 07/16/2015 2:52:20 PM PDT by quantumman (K)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Just Barack Obama doing the job he was installed to do.


17 posted on 07/16/2015 2:52:46 PM PDT by Iron Munro (We may be paranoid but that doesn't mean they aren't really after us)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

If you goal was to Destroy Western Civilization, could you have come up with a better deal?


18 posted on 07/16/2015 2:52:59 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (A system of government that makes the People subordinate to a committee of nine unelected lawyers)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

The commie left hates Israel, along with the US. It’s fundamental to who and what they are. They want to do whatever they can to weaken the US, and also strengthen Russia. KGB Putin is reported to be extremely happy with this deal made by his “flexible” butt buddy Obama.


19 posted on 07/16/2015 2:57:39 PM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: StormEye

Or the Saudi’s..or..or.

Lets not forget, these nut jobs will make the world burn for their 12th imam in some well.


20 posted on 07/16/2015 3:00:49 PM PDT by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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