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Americans Don't Have the Right to Bear Just Any Arms
Newsweek ^ | 7/16/15 | Eichenwald

Posted on 07/16/2015 7:47:15 AM PDT by pabianice

...Unfortunately, the NRA has been working for years to make sure lunatics and felons can obtain guns as easily as possible... Then the NRA worked to weaken old rules barring the mentally ill from owning guns. In the past, because of concerns that an unbalanced person could relapse after treatment, the rules provided that anyone prohibited from having a gun for psychological reasons was banned forever. No more: Now a person committed to a mental hospital can, after getting out, petition a court for his guns. And by lobbying state legislatures, the NRA made sure psychiatric experts play a puny role in determining if a former mental patient should have a gun. Instead, in places like Idaho, state judges who are ill-equipped to make such a determination do it with no input from experts...

According to the NRA, every armed madman or criminal is a responsible, law-abiding good guy with a gun until the moment his first bullet splatters the walls with the brains and blood of innocent people.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsweek.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; huh; leftistmindset; liberalagenda
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To: pabianice

Umm... Yes, we do.

And we already have them.

Good luck.


21 posted on 07/16/2015 7:59:58 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: smokingfrog

Yes, they’ve been doing this for a long time. But eventually, when the number of people working and paying taxes is far outstripped and they run out of other peoples’ money and somebody has to really go out and work and do something substantive it falls apart.

In a riot, people like this are the first to go. The denizens don’t care. They just see what these cretins have and they take it.


22 posted on 07/16/2015 8:01:38 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: pabianice

Dear SnoozeSneak:

Shut The Freep Up. Sit The Freep Down. And Get The Freep Out.

Freep you forever,

Laz

(Substitute any word for ‘Freep’)


23 posted on 07/16/2015 8:01:41 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Back in the 1970's, Iran used to call us the "Great Satan". Turns out they were right all along.)
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To: PATRIOT1876
Newsweak is salivating like Pavlov's dog just waiting for the day when their political mentors are imitated and those that disagree with the government are officially deemed insane.

I believe George Soros's money has a major interest in Newsweek today.

24 posted on 07/16/2015 8:02:35 AM PDT by Rapscallion (Obama: So little time. So much more destruction to inflict on America.)
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To: smokingfrog
It’s not enough for them to slant the news. Now they just make sh*t up as well.

Been that way for goin on 10 years.

And they don't care if it's believable, neither.

25 posted on 07/16/2015 8:03:13 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Back in the 1970's, Iran used to call us the "Great Satan". Turns out they were right all along.)
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To: pabianice

Newsweak still run by Eleanor Clift?
The same Eleanor Clift who, if she had a nose job it would be considered a hysterectomy?


26 posted on 07/16/2015 8:03:21 AM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: pabianice
Liberals use the device of the false hope of perfect security to justify their takeover. 50,000 people a year die in auto accidents. . .there is no such thing as perfect security. That there are reckless drivers in no way should affect my freedom to be a licensed driver. Same with guns, actually, even more so. . .because the "right to bear arms" is guaranteed. . .and thus. . no one. . NO ONE has the legal standing to arbitrarily dictate the sphere of my right.

If we allow liberals to fiddle with the sphere of our right to bear arms. . .tempted by the false hope of perfect security. . .it will never end. . .they will then stand on the precedent that someone or some institution supercedes the Creator who has endowed us our rights. Even if we have never owned a gun or even fired one. . .people who love their freedom must oppose liberals on the simple principle that they have no legal standing to fiddle with one iota of any of our freedoms and rights. The founders asserting that our rights "are endowed by the Creator" was THEIR DEVICE to make sure that the non-angels who run the government would be in check. . .that the power to govern. . did not originate WITH government.. . but by consent of those endowed with the authority to govern (the People)

27 posted on 07/16/2015 8:07:35 AM PDT by McBuff
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To: smokingfrog

Obama wants Iran to have nukes, so there is a symmetry.


28 posted on 07/16/2015 8:12:29 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: pabianice

If you can afford a nuke, you should be able to buy a nuke.


29 posted on 07/16/2015 8:13:23 AM PDT by Da Bilge Troll (Defeatism is not a winning strategy!)
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To: McBuff
"the false hope of perfect security"

LOL! They don't care about security! They only care about CONTROL!

30 posted on 07/16/2015 8:15:46 AM PDT by Da Bilge Troll (Defeatism is not a winning strategy!)
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To: pabianice
It's a very long article, and when I scanned it I saw that the author correctly identified an AR-10 in one picture, so I kept reading.

His arguments are for universal background checks, magazine capacity limitations, and no open carry, and in return gun owners get shall issue in all 50 states (presumably that includes NYC,) repeal ban on all 'cop killer' bullets, and repeal regional bans on 'assault weapons' that the author correctly points out do not really exist as a class of weapon in the first place.

I cannot accept the author's compromises, but the article isn't as anti-gun as the screaming headline and the excerpt indicate.

31 posted on 07/16/2015 8:16:40 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: pabianice

Author is being ripped to shreds in the comments at the article! Not one in favor of his article.


32 posted on 07/16/2015 8:22:38 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra (Don't touch that thing Don't let anybody touch that thing!I'm a Doctor and I won't touch that thing!)
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To: pabianice

Newsweak


33 posted on 07/16/2015 8:25:57 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: Yo-Yo
"His arguments are for universal background checks, magazine capacity limitations, and no open carry, and in return gun owners get shall issue in all 50 states (presumably that includes NYC,) repeal ban on all 'cop killer' bullets, and repeal regional bans on 'assault weapons' that the author correctly points out do not really exist as a class of weapon in the first place."

This is just the classic lib incrementalist approach. Chip away a little here, a little there until they achieve total confiscation.

34 posted on 07/16/2015 8:25:59 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: pabianice
Newsweek is to news as Tina Fey is to humor Newsweek photo: Newsweeklings Palin.jpg as Brian Williams is to valor.
35 posted on 07/16/2015 8:29:10 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: pabianice

Is News-weak still in print? The publishers need to do us all a favor and put it out of its misery by cancelling it.


36 posted on 07/16/2015 8:30:23 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: redangus
But Obama thinks felons should be allowed to vote.

Obama also wants thugs released from prisons and given the right to vote as they're walking out the door. Seems the only people liberals want disarmed and muzzled are law biding citizens ...

Oh - and the monster who killed black Christians at a prayer meet? He was sold the gun because the FBI effed up...

37 posted on 07/16/2015 8:30:39 AM PDT by GOPJ (Breaking into my house doesn't give you the right to stay... NO AMNESTY! (protest sign))
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To: pabianice

I’m thinking that “Kurt Eichenwald” is a made-up name. The very Aryan first name of “Kurt” is added to a name made of combining Buchenwald with Eichmann. This is certainly a convenient name for a gun-grabbing totalitarian.

Wait til you see his final solutions for NRA members, Christians, and patriots. Then he will get to the eugenics of cleansing the gene pool of all these mental detectives he’s so worried about.

Yeah, with people like this in the national media, citizens have no need at all for firearms. Remember, the elite knows best.


38 posted on 07/16/2015 8:32:32 AM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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To: pabianice

Anyone who makes this kind of claim should be forced to explain the existence of Letters of Marque in the Constitution.


39 posted on 07/16/2015 8:37:21 AM PDT by zeugma (The best defense against a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun)
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To: circlecity
This is just the classic lib incrementalist approach. Chip away a little here, a little there until they achieve total confiscation.

Like Reagan's 1986 Fireearm Owners Protection Act that permanently closed the Title II machine gun registry in return for the NICS instant background check system.

40 posted on 07/16/2015 8:37:38 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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