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Trump 2008: Bush Is Evil, Talk to Iran, Obama Cannot Do Worse Than Bush
National Review ^ | 07/10/2015 | Jim Geraghty

Posted on 07/10/2015 5:14:53 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

From the last Morning Jolt of the week: Trump 2008: Bush Is Evil, Talk to Iran, Obama Cannot Do Worse Than Bush

You may have gathered that I remain a skeptic about Donald Trump. Trump fans look at us skeptics with incredulity that we could possibly object to their man, and his ability to “change the debate,” and force the media to discuss topics like sanctuary cities.

Those of us not so enamored with Trump look at how that quality suddenly outranks all other qualities in a potential Republican presidential candidate – including consistent conservatism.

Permit me to remind you about Donald Trump’s assessment of President Bush back in 2008: Bush has been so bad, maybe the worst president in the history of this country. He has been so incompetent, so bad, so evil, that I don’t think any Republican could have won. Evil? Evil? Of course, in the same interview, Trump endorsed… diplomatic outreach with Iran. You know, you can be enemies with people, whether it’s Iran, Iraq, anyplace else and you can still have dialogue. These people won’t even talk to him. It’s terrible.

Wait, there’s more! Check out his assessment of Obama!

VAN SUSTEREN: The new president-elect, what are your thoughts? Pretty exciting, it’s always exciting when we have a change of power, a transition, but what are your thoughts.

TRUMP: It’s very exciting we have a new president. It would have been nice if he ended with a 500 point up instead of down. It’s certainly very exciting. His speech was great last night. I thought it was inspiring in every way. And, hopefully he’s going to do a great job. But the way I look at it, he cannot do worse than Bush.

VAN SUSTEREN: We know how you feel about this.

TRUMP: It’s not me, it’s everybody. It’s been a total catastrophe. That’s what happened to Republicans. They got run are out of office because we have president that’s been so bad. And he’s been a catastrophe, there’s no question about it. He got us into a war we didn’t need. You look at the money, we’re spending hundreds of billions of dollars on a war, and then people wonder why the economy isn’t doing well. OPEC is ripping us off left and right, the oil countries are just ripping us off left and right. So you have wars, you have OPEC, all of this stuff. He didn’t do anything about it. He sends Condoleezza Rice. She gets off a plane and waves to everybody and then leaves. It’s ridiculous.

VAN SUSTEREN: Governor Palin–do you think we’ll see her back in 2012? What are your thoughts on that?

TRUMP: I don’t know. There’s a real question–she certainly made things interesting, but the question is, did she help? I met her a couple of times. She’s really nice. I just don’t know. I just have no answer for it. And then here’s his thoughts on health care back in 1999…

TRUMP: I think you have to have it, and, again, I said I’m conservative, generally speaking, I’m conservative, and even very conservative. But I’m quite liberal and getting much more liberal on health care and other things. I really say: What’s the purpose of a country if you’re not going to have defensive and health care? If you can’t take care of your sick in the country, forget it, it’s all over. I mean, it’s no good. So I’m very liberal when it comes to health care. I believe in universal health care. I believe in whatever it takes to make people well and better.

KING: So you believe, then, it’s an entitlement of birth?

TRUMP: I think it is. It’s an entitlement to this country, and too bad the world can’t be, you know, in this country. But the fact is, it’s an entitlement to this country if we’re going to have a great country. And then, as you probably saw, Trump’s post-2012 comments on illegal immigration: “Republicans didn’t have anything going for them with respect to Latinos and with respect to Asians,” the billionaire developer says. “The Democrats didn’t have a policy for dealing with illegal immigrants, but what they did have going for them is they weren’t mean-spirited about it,” Trump says. “They didn’t know what the policy was, but what they were is they were kind.” Romney’s solution of “self deportation” for illegal aliens made no sense and suggested that Republicans do not care about Hispanics in general, Trump says. “He had a crazy policy of self deportation which was maniacal,” Trump says. “It sounded as bad as it was, and he lost all of the Latino vote,”

Trump notes. “He lost the Asian vote. He lost everybody who is inspired to come into this country.” The GOP has to develop a comprehensive policy “to take care of this incredible problem that we have with respect to immigration, with respect to people wanting to be wonderful productive citizens of this country,”

Trump says. Yet I see people comparing Trump to Reagan.

Donald Trump has been a conservative for about ten minutes.


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To: C. Edmund Wright
Did you see the interview yesterday, not ruling out a third party run? Cue: President Clinton (or hell, maybe President Sanders!!!)

Trump is well aware of the parallel. He told Byron York of the Washington Examiner this week, “I think every single vote that went to Ross Perot came from [George H. W.] Bush. Virtually every one of his 19 percentage points came from the Republicans. If Ross Perot didn’t run, you'd have never heard of Bill Clinton.”

61 posted on 07/10/2015 10:37:30 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Solson; cripplecreek
Ah...so you see Cripplecreek as a neutral party not "pushing" any candidate, just providing information to the masses..... Tell me, how exactly is Donald Trump bad for politics right now?

Wow dude, hard to make so many mistakes in such a short post. I'll try and clean this up for you. First, I know cripplecreek has a favored candidate, but I also know that he is a very reasoned and long time poster and solid conservative. The same cannot be said for Donald Trump, who is extremely new to this conservative stuff. And I think that's the point.

And second, I know he also has other candidates he's eyeing, so he's far from some kind of kool aid drinker. Moreover, he posts a lot of stuff and comments on a lot of stuff that is not about presidential candidates. I'm sorry you are limited in your scope to just candidate threads. You must be bored three years out of every four.

And third, I never said Donald Trump was bad for politics. In fact, I've said he's GOOD for the process and that he has THE RIGHT PEOPLE's worried.

So my question to you is, why take every comment personally, and why not actually speak to the substance of the comment.

62 posted on 07/10/2015 12:40:21 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: Pirate Ragnar

Whatever.


63 posted on 07/10/2015 2:04:53 PM PDT by Nickname
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To: S.O.S121.500

Go here, choose a forum in which to post and follow the steps...
Not hard and you may enjoy posting articles from time to time.

http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/post_article


64 posted on 07/10/2015 2:13:08 PM PDT by deport
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To: SeekAndFind
So Trump is Wendell Willkie (1940), not Ross Perot (1992, 1996).

Google "Donald Trump and Wendell Willkie."

You'll get liberals saying Trump's no Willkie (they believe Willkie was a liberal after all and Trump isn't).

And you'll get Trump mentioning Willkie in his book.

65 posted on 07/10/2015 2:20:07 PM PDT by x
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To: john mirse

To be honest, I don’t even worry about voting. I live in Texas where, by the time the nomination process swings to my state, it’s already over. So basically I live in one of the biggest conservative states in the Union and don’t actually have any say on who will be the nominee. Instead, the mushy liberal states pick my candidate.


66 posted on 07/10/2015 3:06:44 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Yosemitest

Isn’t he getting bashed right now for saying illegal aliens are mostly criminals? He came out pro-life too, and the Oprah thing was a joke.


67 posted on 07/10/2015 3:10:16 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

To be honest, I don’t even worry about voting. I live in Texas where, by the
time the nomination process swings to my state, it’s already over.

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That want be the case this time around. Texas will hold its primary on Mar. 1, 2016.
So go vote.

http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P16/events.phtml?s=c


68 posted on 07/10/2015 3:15:05 PM PDT by deport
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To: Seruzawa

Like it or not if it comes down to Hillary vs Bush there will be a third party candidate.

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There are 459 candidates out there now. Most don’t have a chance
but they have filed the FEC Form 2 to run as a candidate.

Take a peak.....

http://www.fec.gov/press/resources/2016presidential_form2nm.shtml


69 posted on 07/10/2015 3:20:50 PM PDT by deport
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Who can BELIEVE WHAT he says?
He's changed sides so many time.
Will he FLIP again?
70 posted on 07/10/2015 3:22:47 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest

I think as a business man, if he gives his word, he’ll keep it.


71 posted on 07/10/2015 3:36:35 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: deport

Go here, choose a forum in which to post and follow the steps...
Not hard and you may enjoy posting articles from time to time.

http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/post_article


Well thank you kindly. Today’s effort would have been the first in about 17 years.....I AM a little bashful.

But, I will be ready NEXT time. Promise.


72 posted on 07/10/2015 4:09:02 PM PDT by S.O.S121.500 (Had ENOUGH Yet ? ........................ Enforce the Bill of Rights ......... It's the LAW !!!)
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To: S.O.S121.500

I AM a little bashful.

***************

Don’t be but I understand. I think it makes for a better forum for lots of
different people posting articles, ideas, etc as opposed to a few doing
most of the posting. That said I don’t post a lot of articles anymore.
Years ago I posted a lot.

Take care.


73 posted on 07/10/2015 4:16:20 PM PDT by deport
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To: sickoflibs

Some amusing comments on this thread if you didn’t see it.


74 posted on 07/13/2015 7:18:24 AM PDT by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: SeekAndFind

If you don’t like where Trump stands on an issue, give him a minute.


75 posted on 07/13/2015 7:22:15 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Impy

It kind of reminds me of that Romney thread.

Both ‘Beating dead horses’ threads, GWB, Romney....

Good for popcorn.


76 posted on 07/13/2015 7:24:56 AM PDT by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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To: cripplecreek
lolololol.

I like the Trump effect; because he has people talking. However, I have other candidates in mind as favorites.

77 posted on 07/13/2015 7:26:58 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: SeekAndFind

bump


78 posted on 07/21/2015 9:08:37 PM PDT by EveningStar
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