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Trump 2008: Bush Is Evil, Talk to Iran, Obama Cannot Do Worse Than Bush
National Review ^ | 07/10/2015 | Jim Geraghty

Posted on 07/10/2015 5:14:53 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

From the last Morning Jolt of the week: Trump 2008: Bush Is Evil, Talk to Iran, Obama Cannot Do Worse Than Bush

You may have gathered that I remain a skeptic about Donald Trump. Trump fans look at us skeptics with incredulity that we could possibly object to their man, and his ability to “change the debate,” and force the media to discuss topics like sanctuary cities.

Those of us not so enamored with Trump look at how that quality suddenly outranks all other qualities in a potential Republican presidential candidate – including consistent conservatism.

Permit me to remind you about Donald Trump’s assessment of President Bush back in 2008: Bush has been so bad, maybe the worst president in the history of this country. He has been so incompetent, so bad, so evil, that I don’t think any Republican could have won. Evil? Evil? Of course, in the same interview, Trump endorsed… diplomatic outreach with Iran. You know, you can be enemies with people, whether it’s Iran, Iraq, anyplace else and you can still have dialogue. These people won’t even talk to him. It’s terrible.

Wait, there’s more! Check out his assessment of Obama!

VAN SUSTEREN: The new president-elect, what are your thoughts? Pretty exciting, it’s always exciting when we have a change of power, a transition, but what are your thoughts.

TRUMP: It’s very exciting we have a new president. It would have been nice if he ended with a 500 point up instead of down. It’s certainly very exciting. His speech was great last night. I thought it was inspiring in every way. And, hopefully he’s going to do a great job. But the way I look at it, he cannot do worse than Bush.

VAN SUSTEREN: We know how you feel about this.

TRUMP: It’s not me, it’s everybody. It’s been a total catastrophe. That’s what happened to Republicans. They got run are out of office because we have president that’s been so bad. And he’s been a catastrophe, there’s no question about it. He got us into a war we didn’t need. You look at the money, we’re spending hundreds of billions of dollars on a war, and then people wonder why the economy isn’t doing well. OPEC is ripping us off left and right, the oil countries are just ripping us off left and right. So you have wars, you have OPEC, all of this stuff. He didn’t do anything about it. He sends Condoleezza Rice. She gets off a plane and waves to everybody and then leaves. It’s ridiculous.

VAN SUSTEREN: Governor Palin–do you think we’ll see her back in 2012? What are your thoughts on that?

TRUMP: I don’t know. There’s a real question–she certainly made things interesting, but the question is, did she help? I met her a couple of times. She’s really nice. I just don’t know. I just have no answer for it. And then here’s his thoughts on health care back in 1999…

TRUMP: I think you have to have it, and, again, I said I’m conservative, generally speaking, I’m conservative, and even very conservative. But I’m quite liberal and getting much more liberal on health care and other things. I really say: What’s the purpose of a country if you’re not going to have defensive and health care? If you can’t take care of your sick in the country, forget it, it’s all over. I mean, it’s no good. So I’m very liberal when it comes to health care. I believe in universal health care. I believe in whatever it takes to make people well and better.

KING: So you believe, then, it’s an entitlement of birth?

TRUMP: I think it is. It’s an entitlement to this country, and too bad the world can’t be, you know, in this country. But the fact is, it’s an entitlement to this country if we’re going to have a great country. And then, as you probably saw, Trump’s post-2012 comments on illegal immigration: “Republicans didn’t have anything going for them with respect to Latinos and with respect to Asians,” the billionaire developer says. “The Democrats didn’t have a policy for dealing with illegal immigrants, but what they did have going for them is they weren’t mean-spirited about it,” Trump says. “They didn’t know what the policy was, but what they were is they were kind.” Romney’s solution of “self deportation” for illegal aliens made no sense and suggested that Republicans do not care about Hispanics in general, Trump says. “He had a crazy policy of self deportation which was maniacal,” Trump says. “It sounded as bad as it was, and he lost all of the Latino vote,”

Trump notes. “He lost the Asian vote. He lost everybody who is inspired to come into this country.” The GOP has to develop a comprehensive policy “to take care of this incredible problem that we have with respect to immigration, with respect to people wanting to be wonderful productive citizens of this country,”

Trump says. Yet I see people comparing Trump to Reagan.

Donald Trump has been a conservative for about ten minutes.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; donaldtrump
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To: SeekAndFind

I bet I don’t agree on 50% of what Trump believes, but I do believe we need to close the border and only he and Cruz want to do that. One of them will win the nomination.

Pray America is waking


21 posted on 07/10/2015 5:39:09 AM PDT by bray (Cruz to the WH)
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To: SeekAndFind

Obama was opposed to same-sex marriage in 2008 too


22 posted on 07/10/2015 5:40:11 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: Servant of the Cross
My hope is that he helps the conservative(s) who can win by making them appear less "extreme"

Good cop Bad cop. It is kind of interesting how Katie Couric went after Ted Cruz on the birther issue and he left her stammering and embarrassed.
23 posted on 07/10/2015 5:40:19 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Sad fact, most people just want a candidate to tell them what they want to hear)
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To: cripplecreek

> The media would ignore Trump if they didn’t want him to win the nomination.

And you hit the nail right on the head. They know his track record and how he has a weak record on following things through to their conclusion and keeping his promises. They want anyone other than someone like Cruz who will do what he says he will and doesn’t care what the MSM thinks.
I think the American people are being played by this charade. I do like a lot of what Trump is saying but then again I remember he is an entertainer at the same time.


24 posted on 07/10/2015 5:40:50 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: SeekAndFind

To me, GWB was a combination of Jeckyl and Heyde. In some ways he seemed straight and truthful. In other ways he was a BS artist. Standing in NYC atop a pile of rubble and on subsequent occasions he bloviated about how the perpetrators of 911 would rue the day, etc; and to some extent it happened.

But he and his generals put assinine rules of engagement on our troops that got many more of them killed, etc. He never did seem to follow through on DEFEATING terrorists. We killed a few, but there never was a systematic plan of eradication of them. You can’t rid a place of roaches by swatting a few willy-nilly. You need an unflinching program of search and destroy. Bush never really had anything like that, and it resulted in a lot of needless body bags.


25 posted on 07/10/2015 5:41:26 AM PDT by Tucker39 (Welcome to America! Now speak English; and keep to the right....In driving, in Faith, and politics.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
Did you see the interview yesterday, not ruling out a third party run? Cue: President Clinton (or hell, maybe President Sanders!!!)

yep.its 1992 all over again.

26 posted on 07/10/2015 5:44:15 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines (Obama loves America the way OJ loved Nicole)
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To: cripplecreek
"Trump has a solid history of conservatism going back many weeks."

I read the last word just as I was about to take a sip of coffee...set my mug down fast, LOL.

27 posted on 07/10/2015 5:44:18 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon (("This is a Laztatorship. You don't like it, get a day's rations and get out of this office."))
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To: wastoute
"I don’t think any of us are fooled by Trump"

You need to get out and about the forum more.

28 posted on 07/10/2015 5:45:28 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon (("This is a Laztatorship. You don't like it, get a day's rations and get out of this office."))
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To: The_Media_never_lie
Why would Donald not hope Obama would do a good job?

Hope? Hope?

I notice you left out the part where Trump said of Obama: "...he cannot do worse than Bush".

But he was wrong about that, and many of us knew at the time he was wrong. And "hoping" Obama will do a good job? Ridiculously stupid or ludicrously naive (and Trump is NOT naive). No matter how bad GWB was, how could sane, rational, people "hope" Obama was going to "do a good job" when our sanity and rationality led us to know he was going to do very, very bad things to this country?

Hope, indeed. The only conclusion I can draw from Trump's comments in 2008 is that he was not rational and not sane.

As my old dad used to say (and still says, actually): "Hope in one hand, sh#t in the other, and see which one gets full first".

29 posted on 07/10/2015 5:45:52 AM PDT by WayneS (Yeah, it's probably sarcasm...)
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To: CatherineofAragon

I think it might have been Duncan Hunter who coined the phrase “Road to New Hampshire conversion”.


30 posted on 07/10/2015 5:46:00 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Sad fact, most people just want a candidate to tell them what they want to hear)
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To: SeekAndFind

Calling Donald Trump a viable Presidential candidate is like calling Jeffrey Dahmer a chef.


31 posted on 07/10/2015 5:47:06 AM PDT by LottieDah (If only those who speak so eloquently on behalf of animals would do so on behalf of the unborn.)
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To: AppyPappy

No, he wasn’t. He just SAID he was.


32 posted on 07/10/2015 5:47:08 AM PDT by WayneS (Yeah, it's probably sarcasm...)
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To: CatherineofAragon
"I don’t think any of us are fooled by Trump"

You need to get out and about the forum more.

LOL! Happy Friday Lady Catherine.

33 posted on 07/10/2015 5:51:23 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: SeekAndFind
TRUMP: It’s very exciting we have a new president. It would have been nice if he ended with a 500 point up instead of down. It’s certainly very exciting. His speech was great last night. I thought it was inspiring in every way. And, hopefully he’s going to do a great job. But the way I look at it, he cannot do worse than Bush.

I will not forget that you felt obama was better.
Maybe he is better than you too?
I will not vote for you.
34 posted on 07/10/2015 5:53:33 AM PDT by novemberslady
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To: jsanders2001

“I do like a lot of what Trump is saying but then again I remember he is an entertainer at the same time.”

Yes, that is why most entertainers are billionaires.


35 posted on 07/10/2015 6:10:34 AM PDT by odawg
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
I'm starting to like Trump.

But I think that Trump needs to take the time to explain or clarify the questionable things that he said in the past that are listed in this article before I can strongly say that I would vote for Trump.

36 posted on 07/10/2015 6:14:30 AM PDT by john mirse
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To: cripplecreek
"I think it might have been Duncan Hunter who coined the phrase “Road to New Hampshire conversion”."

Very apt.

Wait until the road leads in the other direction...it won't take long for him to revert.

37 posted on 07/10/2015 6:17:54 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon (("This is a Laztatorship. You don't like it, get a day's rations and get out of this office."))
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To: Servant of the Cross

Happy Friday and a good weekend to you, sir. ;)


38 posted on 07/10/2015 6:18:45 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon (("This is a Laztatorship. You don't like it, get a day's rations and get out of this office."))
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To: SeekAndFind

I remember Trump soured big time on Bush after the 2004 election (where he did support Bush). He thought the second term was a catastrophe. He’s more wrong than right, although I disagreed with some of his points at the time. His general disgust at the ineptitude was shared by many. Trump definitely missed all the signs RE: Obama. That’s forgivable given the climate at the time. Trump sits in the heart of liberal Manhattan. I am not supporting Trump, but I am not going to bash one of the few to take the fight to the opposition. He clearly has a great distaste for what the Bush’s did to the party. I share that view.


39 posted on 07/10/2015 6:22:59 AM PDT by ilgipper
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To: SeekAndFind

Not sure how to post this as its own article, figure another Friend will if there is interest.

Donald Trump is slated to be on the radio after the 7:00 news on Broomheads show. About 30 minutes from now.

http://www.kfyi.com/main.html


40 posted on 07/10/2015 6:27:46 AM PDT by S.O.S121.500 (Had ENOUGH Yet ? ........................ Enforce the Bill of Rights ......... It's the LAW !!!)
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