Posted on 07/10/2015 5:14:53 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
From the last Morning Jolt of the week: Trump 2008: Bush Is Evil, Talk to Iran, Obama Cannot Do Worse Than Bush
You may have gathered that I remain a skeptic about Donald Trump. Trump fans look at us skeptics with incredulity that we could possibly object to their man, and his ability to change the debate, and force the media to discuss topics like sanctuary cities.
Those of us not so enamored with Trump look at how that quality suddenly outranks all other qualities in a potential Republican presidential candidate including consistent conservatism.
Permit me to remind you about Donald Trumps assessment of President Bush back in 2008: Bush has been so bad, maybe the worst president in the history of this country. He has been so incompetent, so bad, so evil, that I dont think any Republican could have won. Evil? Evil? Of course, in the same interview, Trump endorsed diplomatic outreach with Iran. You know, you can be enemies with people, whether its Iran, Iraq, anyplace else and you can still have dialogue. These people wont even talk to him. Its terrible.
Wait, theres more! Check out his assessment of Obama!
VAN SUSTEREN: The new president-elect, what are your thoughts? Pretty exciting, its always exciting when we have a change of power, a transition, but what are your thoughts.
TRUMP: Its very exciting we have a new president. It would have been nice if he ended with a 500 point up instead of down. Its certainly very exciting. His speech was great last night. I thought it was inspiring in every way. And, hopefully hes going to do a great job. But the way I look at it, he cannot do worse than Bush.
VAN SUSTEREN: We know how you feel about this.
TRUMP: Its not me, its everybody. Its been a total catastrophe. Thats what happened to Republicans. They got run are out of office because we have president thats been so bad. And hes been a catastrophe, theres no question about it. He got us into a war we didnt need. You look at the money, were spending hundreds of billions of dollars on a war, and then people wonder why the economy isnt doing well. OPEC is ripping us off left and right, the oil countries are just ripping us off left and right. So you have wars, you have OPEC, all of this stuff. He didnt do anything about it. He sends Condoleezza Rice. She gets off a plane and waves to everybody and then leaves. Its ridiculous.
VAN SUSTEREN: Governor Palindo you think well see her back in 2012? What are your thoughts on that?
TRUMP: I dont know. Theres a real questionshe certainly made things interesting, but the question is, did she help? I met her a couple of times. Shes really nice. I just dont know. I just have no answer for it. And then heres his thoughts on health care back in 1999
TRUMP: I think you have to have it, and, again, I said Im conservative, generally speaking, Im conservative, and even very conservative. But Im quite liberal and getting much more liberal on health care and other things. I really say: Whats the purpose of a country if youre not going to have defensive and health care? If you cant take care of your sick in the country, forget it, its all over. I mean, its no good. So Im very liberal when it comes to health care. I believe in universal health care. I believe in whatever it takes to make people well and better.
KING: So you believe, then, its an entitlement of birth?
TRUMP: I think it is. Its an entitlement to this country, and too bad the world cant be, you know, in this country. But the fact is, its an entitlement to this country if were going to have a great country. And then, as you probably saw, Trumps post-2012 comments on illegal immigration: Republicans didnt have anything going for them with respect to Latinos and with respect to Asians, the billionaire developer says. The Democrats didnt have a policy for dealing with illegal immigrants, but what they did have going for them is they werent mean-spirited about it, Trump says. They didnt know what the policy was, but what they were is they were kind. Romneys solution of self deportation for illegal aliens made no sense and suggested that Republicans do not care about Hispanics in general, Trump says. He had a crazy policy of self deportation which was maniacal, Trump says. It sounded as bad as it was, and he lost all of the Latino vote,
Trump notes. He lost the Asian vote. He lost everybody who is inspired to come into this country. The GOP has to develop a comprehensive policy to take care of this incredible problem that we have with respect to immigration, with respect to people wanting to be wonderful productive citizens of this country,
Trump says. Yet I see people comparing Trump to Reagan.
Donald Trump has been a conservative for about ten minutes.
I bet I don’t agree on 50% of what Trump believes, but I do believe we need to close the border and only he and Cruz want to do that. One of them will win the nomination.
Pray America is waking
Obama was opposed to same-sex marriage in 2008 too
> The media would ignore Trump if they didnt want him to win the nomination.
And you hit the nail right on the head. They know his track record and how he has a weak record on following things through to their conclusion and keeping his promises. They want anyone other than someone like Cruz who will do what he says he will and doesn’t care what the MSM thinks.
I think the American people are being played by this charade. I do like a lot of what Trump is saying but then again I remember he is an entertainer at the same time.
To me, GWB was a combination of Jeckyl and Heyde. In some ways he seemed straight and truthful. In other ways he was a BS artist. Standing in NYC atop a pile of rubble and on subsequent occasions he bloviated about how the perpetrators of 911 would rue the day, etc; and to some extent it happened.
But he and his generals put assinine rules of engagement on our troops that got many more of them killed, etc. He never did seem to follow through on DEFEATING terrorists. We killed a few, but there never was a systematic plan of eradication of them. You can’t rid a place of roaches by swatting a few willy-nilly. You need an unflinching program of search and destroy. Bush never really had anything like that, and it resulted in a lot of needless body bags.
yep.its 1992 all over again.
I read the last word just as I was about to take a sip of coffee...set my mug down fast, LOL.
You need to get out and about the forum more.
Hope? Hope?
I notice you left out the part where Trump said of Obama: "...he cannot do worse than Bush".
But he was wrong about that, and many of us knew at the time he was wrong. And "hoping" Obama will do a good job? Ridiculously stupid or ludicrously naive (and Trump is NOT naive). No matter how bad GWB was, how could sane, rational, people "hope" Obama was going to "do a good job" when our sanity and rationality led us to know he was going to do very, very bad things to this country?
Hope, indeed. The only conclusion I can draw from Trump's comments in 2008 is that he was not rational and not sane.
As my old dad used to say (and still says, actually): "Hope in one hand, sh#t in the other, and see which one gets full first".
I think it might have been Duncan Hunter who coined the phrase “Road to New Hampshire conversion”.
Calling Donald Trump a viable Presidential candidate is like calling Jeffrey Dahmer a chef.
No, he wasn’t. He just SAID he was.
You need to get out and about the forum more.
LOL! Happy Friday Lady Catherine.
“I do like a lot of what Trump is saying but then again I remember he is an entertainer at the same time.”
Yes, that is why most entertainers are billionaires.
But I think that Trump needs to take the time to explain or clarify the questionable things that he said in the past that are listed in this article before I can strongly say that I would vote for Trump.
Very apt.
Wait until the road leads in the other direction...it won't take long for him to revert.
Happy Friday and a good weekend to you, sir. ;)
I remember Trump soured big time on Bush after the 2004 election (where he did support Bush). He thought the second term was a catastrophe. He’s more wrong than right, although I disagreed with some of his points at the time. His general disgust at the ineptitude was shared by many. Trump definitely missed all the signs RE: Obama. That’s forgivable given the climate at the time. Trump sits in the heart of liberal Manhattan. I am not supporting Trump, but I am not going to bash one of the few to take the fight to the opposition. He clearly has a great distaste for what the Bush’s did to the party. I share that view.
Not sure how to post this as its own article, figure another Friend will if there is interest.
Donald Trump is slated to be on the radio after the 7:00 news on Broomheads show. About 30 minutes from now.
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