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Pope says family separation can be 'morally necessary'
Yahoo News ^ | 6/24/2015 | Unk

Posted on 06/24/2015 9:13:23 AM PDT by TomServo

Vatican City (AFP) - Pope Francis said Wednesday that it may be "morally necessary" for some families to split up, marking a change of tone in the Catholic Church's attitude to troubled marriages.

"There are cases in which separation is inevitable," he said during his weekly general audience, with a message hoping to encourage greater compassion in the Church ahead of a highly anticipated global meeting on family life in October.

"Sometimes, it can even be morally necessary, when it's about shielding the weaker spouse or young children from the more serious wounds caused by intimidation and violence, humiliation and exploitation," he said.

Francis said there were many families in "irregular situations" and the question should be how to best help them, and "how to accompany them so that the child does not become daddy or mummy's hostage".

The issue is likely to be addressed during the upcoming synod -- a gathering of bishops -- on the family, which Francis hopes will help reconcile Catholic thinking with the realities of believers' lives in the early 21st century.

A first synod on the issues last year saw riled conservative bishops mobilise to block the approval of language heralding an unprecedented opening to the gay community and greater flexibility on the treatment of divorced Catholics.

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To: HarleyLady27

He’s talking about families in which there is abuse. Does your religion advocate spouses stay with those who are beating them up?


21 posted on 06/24/2015 9:25:57 AM PDT by Chicory
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To: TomServo

I think this pope has said some things that politically some faction has a problem with, so instead of discussing the issue in question on the merits, there is a major campaign on to make more people mad at him.


22 posted on 06/24/2015 9:27:49 AM PDT by BlackAdderess ("Give me a but a firm spot on which to stand, and I shall move the earth". --Archimedes)
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To: TomServo

Is he even CATHOLIC????


23 posted on 06/24/2015 9:29:34 AM PDT by Ann Archy (ABORTION....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: TomServo; 2ndDivisionVet; Gaffer; kingu; HarleyLady27; arthurus; knarf; Sherman Logan; SpaceBar; ...

When I saw this article elsewhere this morning, I knew some of my fellow Catholics (and others) - in their relentless assault on Pope Francis - would be posting idiotic comments as if this was some sort of new teaching. And some of you didn’t disappoint. Pope Francis is working RIGHT FROM THE CATECHISM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND LONGSTANDING PASTORAL PRACTICE:

No. 2383 of the Catechism of the Catholic Church explains that “if civil divorce remains the only possible way of ensuring certain legal rights, the care of children, or the protection of inheritance, it can be tolerated and does not constitute a moral offense.”


24 posted on 06/24/2015 9:35:30 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: Ann Archy

Ann, Pope Francis is talking about this:

No. 2383 of the Catechism of the Catholic Church explains that “if civil divorce remains the only possible way of ensuring certain legal rights, the care of children, or the protection of inheritance, it can be tolerated and does not constitute a moral offense.”


25 posted on 06/24/2015 9:36:34 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

Have to agree with you there; if the situation is so bad that there’s abuse and of course, too much general dysfunction.


26 posted on 06/24/2015 9:38:10 AM PDT by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: vladimir998

But you still ain’t going up for communion.


27 posted on 06/24/2015 9:39:22 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: vladimir998
No. 2383 of the Catechism of the Catholic Church

Much more importantly, what does the Bible say?

28 posted on 06/24/2015 9:39:36 AM PDT by dware (Yeah, so? What are you going to do about it?)
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To: Chicory

Yeah, seriously. I’m not Catholic, in fact, I’m pretty opposed to Catholic theology on a lot of points, but to dispute this statement? Ridiculous.


29 posted on 06/24/2015 9:40:24 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: arthurus

“What he says is not wrong but it is wrong for him to say it.”

I don’t know whether that’s morally bankrupt or hypocrisy, but it’s awesome sauce!


30 posted on 06/24/2015 9:40:34 AM PDT by sparklite2
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To: Gaffer

This dopey pope has his nose in everything...just like Obama. The two of them never STFU.


31 posted on 06/24/2015 9:41:57 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: vladimir998

He is, but as Pope he should not be saying things that signal the leftist bishops that certain things are officially okay now that are not okay. It makes it harder to maintain the straight and narrow in the dioceses.


32 posted on 06/24/2015 9:43:03 AM PDT by arthurus (It's true!)
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To: TomServo

What lunatic asylum did this anti-gun, pro-global warming, illegal alien supporting, redistributive communist escape from??? His statements here make SOME sense, but hardly what I would expect from a Catholic Pope.


33 posted on 06/24/2015 9:43:46 AM PDT by ZULU (Boehner and McConnell are Obama's Strumpets.)
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To: dware

1 Corinthians 7 10-11
Matthew 19:9


34 posted on 06/24/2015 9:44:50 AM PDT by BlackAdderess ("Give me a but a firm spot on which to stand, and I shall move the earth". --Archimedes)
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To: vladimir998
RULE 4: “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.”

If the rule is that every letter gets a reply, send 30,000 letters. You can kill them with this because no one can possibly obey all of their own rules.

(This is a serious rule. The besieged entity’s very credibility and reputation is at stake, because if activists catch it lying or not living up to its commitments, they can continue to chip away at the damage.)

~ Saul Alinsky, Rules for Radicals

35 posted on 06/24/2015 9:44:53 AM PDT by Old Sarge (Its the Sixties all over again, but with crappy music...)
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To: TomServo

What in the world is this fool blabbering about now.... hostage.... huh....


36 posted on 06/24/2015 9:46:14 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: dware

1 Corinthians 7:15


37 posted on 06/24/2015 9:46:39 AM PDT by BlackAdderess ("Give me a but a firm spot on which to stand, and I shall move the earth". --Archimedes)
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To: vladimir998
No. 2383 of the Catechism of the Catholic Church explains that “if civil divorce remains the only possible way of ensuring certain legal rights, the care of children, or the protection of inheritance, it can be tolerated and does not constitute a moral offense.”

Yes. Some things just don't work. This isn't new.

I think strong emotions fuel a lot of people's reactions and aren't necessarily tempered with reason and data (or only partial understanding). That isn't new either. We're all guilty of it from time to time. I personally have misgivings about the recent encyclical and the people involved in putting it together, but that isn't the topic of this thread.

38 posted on 06/24/2015 9:46:41 AM PDT by grimalkin (We are a nation under God. If we ever forget this, we are a nation gone under. -Ronald Reagan)
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To: TomServo

Not a change in the Christian position. The fake journalists who cover religion apparently don’t know the source documents of the faith.


39 posted on 06/24/2015 9:47:39 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: TomServo
If there's *serious* misconduct by *either* spouse then one could argue that breakup is the only reasonable option...particularly if there's no end to that misconduct in sight.Spousal abuse,child abuse...even major drug or alcohol issues can be considered.

But stuff like the husband saying "I want a newer model" or the wife saying "I feel unfulfilled" is stupid,selfish and inexcusable.

40 posted on 06/24/2015 9:48:15 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Feelings Are Today's Truth,Truth Is Today's Blasphemy)
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