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1 posted on 06/23/2015 11:56:19 AM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

Simple thinking from a simpleton...quelle surprise!


2 posted on 06/23/2015 11:58:05 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: EveningStar

Now you’ve done it. Civil War do over begin!


3 posted on 06/23/2015 11:58:29 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (7 more shopping days 'til, Graybeard 58's b/day! The BIG seven ohhhh.)
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To: EveningStar

Still one of my favorite movies.


4 posted on 06/23/2015 11:59:30 AM PDT by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: EveningStar
So what about the Northern slave states of Maryland, Delaware, New Jersey, Kentucky, and Missouri?

If it was about slavery, how come they weren't invaded and in ruins?

Why was their slavery acceptable, but those other states not?

5 posted on 06/23/2015 11:59:43 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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To: EveningStar
This pickle puffer just sounds like a hater.
6 posted on 06/23/2015 12:00:15 PM PDT by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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Frankly, John..I don’t give a damn what you think..


7 posted on 06/23/2015 12:00:30 PM PDT by ken5050 (If Hillary is elected president, what role will Huma Abedin have in the White House? Scary, eh?)
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To: EveningStar

Why don’t you just grow up and become an adult? Quit acting like a spoiled brat.


8 posted on 06/23/2015 12:01:03 PM PDT by mulligan (I)
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To: EveningStar

More liberals proving their ignorance.


9 posted on 06/23/2015 12:02:04 PM PDT by SkyDancer ( I Was Told Nobody Is Perfect But Yet, Here I Am ...)
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To: EveningStar

Frankly, I don’t give a damn.


10 posted on 06/23/2015 12:02:43 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: EveningStar

Regurgitating everything the learned in black studies.


11 posted on 06/23/2015 12:02:54 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (A free society canÂ’t let the parameters of its speech be set by murderous Islamists.)
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Gone With the Wind and Birth of a Nation ping


12 posted on 06/23/2015 12:03:50 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

Hunh. I wonder what name John E Price uses when he posts here. He’s got plenty of twins that troll any thread about the South.


13 posted on 06/23/2015 12:07:10 PM PDT by Pelham (The refusal to deport is defacto amnesty)
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To: EveningStar

Democrats were slavers. And racists. And traitors.

And continue to be obsessed by race right up to the present day. And continue to side with our enemies at every opportunity.


14 posted on 06/23/2015 12:08:58 PM PDT by marron
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To: EveningStar

Check me if I’m wrong but slavery officially ended sometime around 1866.

Unless you count the slavery of bondage to the welfare state, where on the democrat plantation, all you are expected to do is vote democrat in every election.

Many times.


15 posted on 06/23/2015 12:09:12 PM PDT by henkster (Do I really need a sarcasm tag?)
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To: EveningStar

Simpleton article, for the stupid.

The entire history of what led up to the war was far more than slavery. FR has thread after thread discussing the topic, so I won’t repost here, but the war was far from about slavery.


16 posted on 06/23/2015 12:09:43 PM PDT by CodeToad (Islam should be outlawed and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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To: EveningStar

Hm. “Birth Of A Nation” is one my all-time favorite movies, at least in the top 5.


17 posted on 06/23/2015 12:09:54 PM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: EveningStar

Got it wrong in the first three sentences. GWTW is about farmers in Northern Georgia not southern aristocrats with, maybe, the exception of Scarlett’s mother and, perhaps, Ashley’s family. Most of the characters are fairly nouveau - especially Scarlett. Guess they’ll be a movement to take away Mitchell’s Pulitzer.


18 posted on 06/23/2015 12:10:03 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: "I should like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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To: EveningStar

Birth Of A Nation is a better movie. Why are leftists such haters? Their founder, Woodrow Wilson, was a big-time racist. LBJ, who started the modern big brother government movement, was a big fan of the N-word.


20 posted on 06/23/2015 12:11:47 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: EveningStar
[John Price is a folklorist and doctoral candidate in American Studies. He is also an award-winning lecturer in American Studies and Communications. John is from New Jersey, which is home to the country's best tomatoes, corn, pizza, and bagels.]

From “Slavery in New Jersey” :

New Jersey's slave population, unlike that of other colonies, actually increased during the Revolution, mainly through migration from other states. But the white population increased at a much faster rate, and wages for laborers became affordable to employers, while the cost of feeding and maintaining and guarding slaves remained high. By 1786, when a ban on slave importation into New Jersey took effect, the institution was dying an economic death. The 1800 census counted 12,422 New Jersey slaves, but the white population had boomed from 1786 to 1800, increasing at a rate six times that of blacks. This is not surprising, in part because in the same year New Jersey banned importing of slaves it also forbid free blacks from entering the state with intent to settle there.

In 1804 the New Jersey Legislature passed “An Act for the Gradual Abolition of Slavery.” It provided that females born of slave parents after July 4, 1804, would be free upon reaching 21 years of age, and males upon reaching 25. Like New York's, this law held a hidden subsidy for slaveowners. A provision allowed them to free their slave children, who would then be turned over to the care of the local overseers of the poor (the state's social welfare agency in those days). The bill provided $3 a month for the support of such children. A slaveowner could then agree to have the children “placed” in his household and collect the $3 monthly subsidy on them. The evidence suggests this practice was widespread, and the line item for “abandoned blacks” rose to be 40 percent of the New Jersey budget by 1809. It was a tax on the entire state paid into the pockets of a few to maintain what were still, essentially, slaves.

Furthermore, New Jersey slaveowners had the option to sell their human property into states that still allowed slaveholding, or into long indentures in Pennsylvania, until an 1818 law that forbid “the exportation of slaves or servants of color.”

New Jersey, like other northern states, replaced outright slavery with stricter controls of free blacks. Black voters were disenfranchsed by an 1807 state law that limited the franchise to “free, white male” citizens.

In 1830, of the 3,568 Northern blacks who remained slaves, more than two-thirds were in New Jersey. The institution was rapidly declining in the 1830s, but not until 1846 was slavery permanently abolished. At the start of the Civil War, New Jersey citizens owned 18 “apprentices for life” (the federal census listed them as “slaves”) — legal slaves by any name.

http://slavenorth.com/newjersey.htm

23 posted on 06/23/2015 12:19:38 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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I hate Gone With the Wind. I hate everything about it. I hate its portrayal of the Civil War. I hate its portrayal of Southern aristocrats. I hate its popularity. I hate that it's become an iconic movie. I hate that it was ever made in the first place.

But don't you dare call him/her/it a hater!

24 posted on 06/23/2015 12:19:50 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("One man with a gun can control a hundred without one." -- Vladimir Lenin)
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