Posted on 05/30/2015 8:34:50 AM PDT by GIdget2004
Rand Paul's immigration speech...The Republican Party must embrace more legal immigration.[Posted on 03/19/2013 7:04:07 AM PDT by Perdogg]
Unfortunately, like many of the major debates in Washington, immigration has become a stalemate-where both sides are imprisoned by their own rhetoric or attachment to sacred cows that prevent the possibility of a balanced solution.
Immigration Reform will not occur until Conservative Republicans, like myself, become part of the solution. I am here today to begin that conversation.
Let's start that conversation by acknowledging we aren't going to deport 12 million illegal immigrants.
If you wish to work, if you wish to live and work in America, then we will find a place for you...
This is where prudence, compassion and thrift all point us toward the same goal: bringing these workers out of the shadows and into being taxpaying members of society.
Imagine 12 million people who are already here coming out of the shadows to become new taxpayers.12 million more people assimilating into society. 12 million more people being productive contributors.
Rand Paul calls on conservatives to embrace immigration reformLatinos, should be a natural constituency for the party, Paul argued, but "Republicans have pushed them away with harsh rhetoric over immigration." ...he would create a bipartisan panel to determine how many visas should be granted for workers already in the United States and those who might follow... [and the buried lead] "Imagine 12 million people who are already here coming out of the shadows to become new taxpayers...[Posted on 04/21/2013 1:52:42 PM PDT by SoConPubbie]
[but he's not in favor of amnesty, snicker, definition of is is]
Yup! The "Civil Rights" bill basically Sovietized America by allowing the feds to tell businesses what to do. But, it sounded nice at the time.
Can you imagine what they'll be doing with The Patriot Act 50 years from now?
Agree.
Prescribes regulations establishing minimum standards for financial institutions and their customers regarding the identity of a customer that shall apply with the opening of an account at the financial institution.
On October 26, 2001, Bush signed the USA PATRIOT Act of 2001 into law. Contained in section 326(b) was the provision that allowed US banks to accept the Mexican Matricula Consular card as valid ID for opening a bank account.
Congress sent a request for opinion to Bush's Treasury Dept. about 326(b). Bush's Treasury responded:
| “The proposed rules set forth the requirement that financial institutions would have to establish a customer identification and verification program applicable to all new accounts that are opened, regardless of whether the customer is a U.S. citizen or a foreign national. While the proposed rules prescribe minimum standards for such programs, they leave sufficient flexibility to permit financial institutions to tailor their program to fit their business operations. The customer identification program would have to contain reasonable procedures for identifying any person, including a business, that opens an account, setting forth the type of identifying information that the financial institution will require. At a minimum, for U.S. persons the proposed rules would require financial institutions to obtain the following information: name, address, taxpayer identification number, and, for individuals, date of birth. While a taxpayer identification number is not required for non-U.S. persons, a financial institution must describe what type of information it will require of a non-U.S. person in place of a taxpayer identification number. The regulations state that financial institutions may accept one or more of the following: a U.S. taxpayer identification number; a passport number and country of issuance; an alien identification card number, or the number and country of issuance of any other government-issued document evidencing nationality or residence and bearing a photograph or similar safeguard.” |
This also contained a footnote (17):
| “Thus, the proposed regulations do not discourage bank acceptance of the ‘matricula consular’ identity card that is being issued by the Mexican government to immigrants.” |
I have issues with the Patriot Act but to think it's expiration would stop blackmail, etc, seems naive. If the powers that be have the means and will to blackmail then they've already proven that they don't care about the law. The Patriot Act doesn't make those actions legal.
BINGO !
You hit the nail on the head.
Nothing wrong with the Patriot Act, until they use it, or spy on, or against US citizens.
I’ve always felt that it should have specific carve outs to protect Americans.
The question is ?
Does Rand Paul and his most ardent hard core supporters truly want the Patriot Act for pure and honest motives ?
Do they want it ended because law abiding, innocent US citizens are being watched and are spied on ?
Or do they want it ended so that some of his supporters are NOT caught doing nefarious things ? As in illegal ? dealing drugs ?
I’m not worried about the feds spying on me but it doesn’t mean they should.
Unfortunately the situation continues to worsen because we have bad non citizens coming in at will and hiding among us. If we stop that, we have a much stronger case for eliminating the patriot act.
Rand Paul is nothing more than a Lyndon LaRouche of the Libitraian Party.
I meant, wants the Patriot Act to end for pure motives.
The fear of Muslim terrorists have made those like Chertoff and many other elites even richer, and have justified the concerted effort to spy on American citizens that had nothing to do with 9-11.
The govt needs to enforce our borders and forget the Middle East. I support this effort. It is time to support our freedom instead of fear. Those that can’t protect us under the bounds of the Constitution need fired.
My real fear is that Obama, or a neocon, or an elite war profiteer will create a national tragedy to put more fear in our hearts and divide us as a nation. This is what works for the elites but screws us.
We want it ended because it is UN-Constitutional.
Maintaining freedom and democracy is equivalent of a thread that can easily be broken. When we allow our govt to bend the Constitution or break that thread the next step is - well you don’t want to know it or experience it because it ends freedom as we know it.
This has nothing to do with politics.
The two most insecure forms of communication are email and cell phones, and any half-assed hacker has access to either or both.
The feds are not interested in my nothing communications, and Patriot Act or not, if they want them, they will get them.
Agree. If it is only used to stop attacks/identify bad guys I am fine with it. I am not fine with the likes of the IRS spying on 501 c’s or the Gov spying on any US citizen who is not a threat.
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