Posted on 05/28/2015 11:18:46 AM PDT by ifinnegan
iCarly and the RNC Pseudo-candidates
I hope people realize iCarly is full on GOPe RNC and her role is to aid GOPe candidates.
As RNC talent, she is better than most. She is articulate, concise, intelligent.
But don't think we can trust her long term any more than we can trust Prince Rebus, Boner or Mitchie-poo.
iCarly is not the only strategic pseudo-candidate.
Why would Huckabee run other than to dilute support for Ted Cruz.
It's win win win for GOPe, Huckabee and Fox Huckabee gets to help Cruz lose and then gets to go back to Fox as a two time Republican Presidential Candidate.
Similarly, why would Lindsey Graham run other than to dilute support for Cruz in South Carolina, a state where Cruz could get some good traction.
iCarly was recruited to dilute support for Palin just in case she ran, same for Bachman or any other potential conservative female candidate.
RNC media allies, Fox and Salem, play a large role in this in coordinating the narrative and promoting these pseudo-candidates, especially Fiorina and Graham.
Salem has now scored a coup in terms of being able to control the GOP debates with erstwhile PBS host Hugh Hewitt, Salem über-GOPe talk show host, as moderator.
This poses about as many ethical problems as does Stephanopolous' association with Presidential debates given Hewitt's close association with the RNC promotion machine and Hewitt's status as Mitt Romney hagiographer.
This is all fine in that they have every right to do these things. I wish they were more honest about it.
But if we know and understand what they are doing we ought not be fooled and we can keep focused on getting Ted Cruz nominated, or Scott Walker.
Realize the narrative will continue, from MSM and RNC media. Ted Cruz is too extreme and, as Cruz pointed out the other day, crazy.
Scott Walker will be hit from the other side with the smears being that he is too establishment, wishy-washy, a sell out.
So just know what is going on, how it works in spin nothing is real optics-land.
I do believe we can appreciate certain things GOPers have done or might do, including Fiorina, Hewitt, Medved and others. They are not Democrats and do not have nothing to be commended for.
Yet, politically they are poison and always lead to loss and defeat. Don't let them do it to us this time around.
Don't want them to do it to us again in '16.
Where can we FedEx your next shipment of tinfoil?
Carly is WHACKING Hillary.
The GOPe are incapable and unwilling to do that.
She is also NOT attacking Tea Party types.
These are my proofs your theory doesn’t work.
Conversely, Huckabee, Santorum, Bush, Christie, Graham ... would spend most of their debate time attacking Cruz and Walker.
Concur. The jury is out on Carly, but from what I see she is answering all the questions correctly.
I will remain a Cruz voter, but I am certainly willing to listen to her more. She may be auditioning for VP, but at this point she seems far different than the Crying Cheeto and his sidekick, The Turtle.
As you note, she is whacking Hillary and seems to be able to handle the corrupt MSM quite well, not like your typical timid GOP-e types. Compare and contrast her to, say, Lindsey Graham.
I’m all ears.
Agreed,
I voted for my last ‘lesser of two evils’ if I don’t like the candidate(s) will just go ahead and write in - probably myself- unless that negates the rest of the ballot.
During the campaign in VA for Gov, Chris Plante had Prebus(?) on and he said the reason they weren’t ‘backing’ Cuccinelli is that he either didn’t need the help or money.
He and GOPe including Rove etal are the MAIN reason we are stuck with a Progressive Butt Wipe for Gov and hope his term ends before he can do too much damage.
I blame the GOPe BUT the R’s and Conservatives that stayed home because they didn’t like ‘Cuccis’ hair style or some other (in)valid reason are the REAL reason.
Might be true. OTOH, she won't dilute any support from Cruz. You have yet to show how she hurts Cruz.
Not the stupidest vanity ever, but probably lower quartile.
It’s hard to see how Carly will pull support from Cruz. Your theory that she is keeping Palin and Bachmann from running is also pretty flimsy.
The more liberal Republicans in the race the better - they feed off the same voters and donors and give Cruz a better chance.
I welcome Carly to the race. She is a great communicator for our side. I would not vote for her for president but think she would kick -— as Cruz’s VP. Cruz will need a moderate running mate - just like Reagan chose Bush.
I like seeing her out there whacking Hitlery.
No other candidate is doing so as much as Carly.
Rubio is a little bit. But Carly was tracking Hitlery in SC last week.
I wish Carly would follow her everywhere, pointing out how Hitlery is a disaster.
I know very little about her, other than she has actually worked for a living. How is she part of the establishment GOP?
Well said.
Seconded.
Carly is setting herself up as the anti-Hillary. It’s proving to be a pretty effective strategy.
Cuccinelli did not inspire a lot of donations especially out-of-state. Donors didn't send money, not just GOP.
Exactly!
“iCarly was recruited to dilute support for Palin just in case she ran, same for Bachman or any other potential conservative female candidate.”
So are you saying she was knowingly recruited for this purpose? Or was she duped? Or was she actually “recruited” at all?
I think Carly is smart enough to be her own person and she’d flatly refuse to be used as a mere tool as you suggest.
Just my 2 cents.
Carly is actually auditioning for the job of VP. The job of a VP candidate is to do the dirty work of attacking the other party’s nominee, and that’s what Carly is doing. She couldn’t care less about who wins the GOP nomination, as long as she proves to be useful as that person’s VP candidate.
Which is very smart of her to do. Being the only woman running, sure has its major advantages.
ifin seems to be upset after the attacks on Hillary by Carly. Just sayin’
There seem to be a lot of Pseudo-candidates. However, I don’t think Carly is one. She is smart, articulate and has a resume. People like Cruz, Rubio, Walker and (unfortunately) Bush all are the real deal with a shot (some might argue not for Cruz; I don’t agree). I like Rand Paul on many issues except national security. Kind of a big issue.
But, why oh why are the likes of Pataki, Santorum, Huckabee, Carson, Christie, Graham, Perry and the rest of these second and third tier guys in the race? Carson is a good story, but the others are way past their expiration dates. Decent men, all (well most; not a fan of Graham), but don’t see any with a chance. Why are they running?
Is it to be able to make money or get cushy lobbying jobs after they drop out? Maybe because they get to raise lots of money for their campaigns and get to keep it (for future political purposes, as per the law!)after they drop? Nothing else makes sense to me. I don’t think any of their egos are that big (well, maybe Christie). I really don’t get it. They are killing us via distraction.
“People like Cruz, Rubio, Walker and (unfortunately) Bush all are the real deal with a shot (some might argue not for Cruz; I don’t agree).”
I agree.
Fiorina is not in that category, therefore a pseudo candidate.
To me the biggest red flag is she did not follow up on her 2010 run in CA against Boxer with a 2016 run for Boxer’s empty seat. She would likely have been the favorite, which is a miracle in CA. She would not have been a pseudo-candidate in that and would be in a position to do some great damage to the Democrats and help our side.
Yet, she moved to Washington DC and now decides to run as a pseudo-candidate for President.
She immediately becomes the Queen of Salem, the GOPe’s media arm.
Cuccinelli did not inspire a lot of donations especially out-of-state
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For what it may (or may not) be worth, my Personal opinion is that you can only be backed financially by those you will represent - NO foreign cash, and to keep things on ‘up and up’(HA HA) a limit to what ANYONE can draw and strict punishment and/or fines for violating.
People shouldn’t have to raise 10 mill to be a 2 year Congressman but the ‘outside monies’ bring that about.
I know that if the ‘town’ is going to have an election and you have a business in the town but live in the County, you are unable to vote - even though the town council will have a say in how you make money or essentially run your business.
Donations should have the same effect because in todays world, it forces the business to ‘bribe’ town citizens to vote for his choice.
We may not have the best system but it is still up there amongst the tops, as is being the best place to live.
Of course, all the dissenters as to whether this place is the best place to live, are free to depart and let us be.
Thanks for the ping....he/she accused me of an ad hominum attack because I asked if he/she was fired under Fiorina at HP...lol
Pretty revealing if'n you ask me.
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