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BIG 3 MEETING DEFINITELY PROJECTED; HIMMLER, CAUGHT, ENDS LIFE BY POISON (5/25/45)
Microfilm-New York Times archives, Monterey Public Library | 5/25/45 | Clifton Daniel, Milton Bracker, James MacDonald, Drew Middleton, Bruce Rae, W.H. Lawrence, more

Posted on 05/25/2015 4:18:55 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson

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TOPICS: Extended News
KEYWORDS: history; milhist; realtime; worldwarii
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To: BroJoeK

Looks like the Japanese killed a total of 25 million civilians in China (20) and Indonesia (5)?

You don’t hear much about the 5 million civilians killed in Indonesia...


21 posted on 05/25/2015 11:16:01 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: Hebrews 11:6

“Finally, how disheartening and infuriating that 83% of all deaths were Allied, versus just 17% Axis.”

IIRC most of the WWII casualties on the chart in Europe resulted from Hitler attacking Stalin before the US got into the war...right when Hitler was on the verge of invading England!

The US and UK had to bail out Stalin as an “Ally” and it was touch and go as to whether England would survive the German Submarine blockade right into 1943!

In China, I suspect that Japanese butchering Chinese from 1937 on until to end of the war added up to a lot of bodies given the dithering the General Chiang and having to fight the Commies under Mao at the same time!


22 posted on 05/25/2015 11:25:44 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp
IIRC most of the WWII casualties on the chart in Europe resulted from Hitler attacking Stalin

Yes, and vice-versa, with neither of them in the least averse to shedding the blood of millions of innocents--indeed, they reveled in it. If you hold the power of life and death over millions, and can impose death on them with seeming impunity, then by golly you're pretty darned important, aren't you? A god among gods.

Japanese butchering Chinese from 1937 on

Yep.

23 posted on 05/25/2015 11:40:19 AM PDT by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God IS, and (2) God IS GOOD?)
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To: Hebrews 11:6

Hitler and Stalin played a game of poker with each other, with the bodies of their soldiers piled high as chips on the table.

Stalin was the better poker player.


24 posted on 05/25/2015 11:59:03 AM PDT by henkster (Do I really need a sarcasm tag?)
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To: henkster

Stalin also brought more chips to the game, and he was only playing one game at-a-time.


25 posted on 05/25/2015 12:01:19 PM PDT by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God IS, and (2) God IS GOOD?)
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To: Seizethecarp

Note that by far, Poland had the highest percentage of her population killed by the war.


26 posted on 05/25/2015 12:08:49 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Most significant is the expansion of the Social Security Program.


27 posted on 05/25/2015 12:15:44 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

I think the targeted liquidation of something like 3 million Polish Jews jacked up that particular number...


28 posted on 05/25/2015 12:41:41 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp

And the Soviets targeted Poles.


29 posted on 05/25/2015 1:02:03 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: nathanbedford

“Henry a Wallace, who by the intervention of divine Providence was dumped in the Democrat convention of 1940 from his office of Vice President of the United States.”

While not disagreeing with you, I need to correct the record. Henry Wallace was Vice President from 1941 to 1945. It was the 1944 convention that pushed him out, not 1940.


30 posted on 05/25/2015 1:37:57 PM PDT by Steven Scharf
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To: dfwgator

Yes, but only selectively, IIRC, limited to anyone who could resist their one-party Commie rule after the war!


31 posted on 05/25/2015 2:25:26 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp

Soviets ethnically cleansed Poles from the areas of Lithuania, Belarus and Ukraine where Poles had lived for centuries.


32 posted on 05/25/2015 2:27:47 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

I hear you!


33 posted on 05/25/2015 3:14:05 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: Steven Scharf
Yes, of course it was the convention of 1944, thank you for correcting my brain lock.


34 posted on 05/25/2015 9:21:10 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Seizethecarp

I read recently that most civilians who died in Indonesia and India died of starvation.


35 posted on 05/26/2015 10:33:45 AM PDT by Ecliptic (.)
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To: Hebrews 11:6; Seizethecarp; henkster; dfwgator; Ecliptic
Hebrews 11:6: "That chart is stunning--it stands as a memorial on this American Memorial Day.
Thanks for posting it.
Mind providing the source?"

Sorry for the delay...

Several sites post summaries of estimates of war and genocide deaths, that particular chart, and this one came from Wiki.


36 posted on 05/28/2015 5:07:34 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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To: BroJoeK

Thanks! Best chart I have seen so far of this data...


37 posted on 05/28/2015 7:49:51 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: BroJoeK

Thanks. What a catastrophe.


38 posted on 05/28/2015 8:38:41 AM PDT by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God IS, and (2) God IS GOOD?)
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