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THE WAR IN EUROPE IS ENDED! SURRENDER IS UNCONDITIONAL; V-E WILL BE PROCLAIMED TODAY (5/8/45)
Microfilm-New York Times archives, Monterey Public Library | 5/8/45 | Edward Kennedy, Frank S. Adams, Richard J.H. Johnston, John MacCormac, Gladwin Hill, Gene Currivan

Posted on 05/08/2015 4:17:25 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson

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TOPICS: Extended News
KEYWORDS: history; milhist; realtime; veday; worldwarii
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
"Between 8 A.M. and noon, a record four-hour total of 1,163,470 calls was handled by the company."

I wonder how many phone calls are handled in NYC between those hours now; the common figure for all the US is 3,000,000,000 calls a day, which would be about 10 calls per person per day, and with about 8,000,000 people in NYC, that would be 80,000,000 calls, more or less.

21 posted on 05/08/2015 6:20:09 AM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: chajin

Yes, but hardly anyone pays for long distance any more. And businesses pound out millions of automated calls. Finally, every suburban housewife has that damned cel phone embedded in the side of their head at birth.


22 posted on 05/08/2015 6:22:16 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
Very interesting that during WWII, time was referred to as Wartime, ie., 2:41AM Eastern Wartime.

I never knew his before.

23 posted on 05/08/2015 6:34:20 AM PDT by PROCON (I AM PAMELA GELLER.............(but in manly guy form :-))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson; All
Well buy a Bronson. The boys in the Pacific will need all the matches

I think you mean a Ronson?
24 posted on 05/08/2015 6:34:30 AM PDT by notdownwidems (Washington DC has become the enemy of free people everywhere)
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To: AU72; All
Stalin was not pleased about the May 7 surrender and insisted on one the following day in Berlin. The Russian general who witnessed the surrender in Rheims was recalled to Moscow and summarily shot.

I hadn't heard this, what's the story behind it? Some significance to the date May 7th?
25 posted on 05/08/2015 6:35:36 AM PDT by notdownwidems (Washington DC has become the enemy of free people everywhere)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Thank you for the five year history lesson Homer, it’s been quite an informative ride.


26 posted on 05/08/2015 6:37:05 AM PDT by mowowie (`)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

May 8, 1944:


"German Colonel General Alfred Jodl (center), Major General Wilhelm Oxenius (left), and Admiral Hans von Friedeburg sign the papers indicating that Germany has surrendered unconditionally.
Friedeburg would soon kill himself, and Jodl would be hanged after his conviction by the International Military Tribunal."


"Germany's unconditional surrender on May 8, 1945, marked an ignominious end to the Third Reich.
The regime had lasted a mere 12 years, not the one thousand that Hitler had promised.
Yet in those 12 years, more than 35 million people had lost their lives because of Nazi aggression.

"Adolf Hitler committed suicide on April 30, 1945. Admiral Karl Dönitz, Hitler's designated successor, recognized that Germany's situation was hopeless.

Thus, on May 7, he sent Field Marshal Alfred Jodl and other senior generals to U.S. General Dwight Eisenhower's headquarters to sign the terms of surrender.
Appalled at what he had seen in the concentration camps, Eisenhower refused to accord the enemy the honor of attending the ceremony in person, instead sending emissaries from the British, French, and Soviet armies.
A day later, the ceremony was repeated in Berlin, with Soviet General Georgi Zhukov accepting the surrender from German Field Marshal Wilhelm Keitel (pictured).
May 8, 1945, has gone down in history as "V-E Day"--Victory in Europe."


"On May 3, a few days after Hitler's suicide, the Czechs of Prague rose against their German overlords.
Wehrmacht troops inside the city threw back the civilian resisters for three days.
Then, on May 6, the collaborationist Russian National Liberation Army commanded by General Andrei Vlasov turned on its German comrades, assuring that the German forces could not hold the city.
German troops inside Prague began a retreat, and on May 9 the city was entered by Soviet forces.
Many Czechs were wounded and about 2,000 gave their lives during the uprising."


"On May 6, 1945, the U.S. Third Army liberated a camp at Ebensee in Austria.
These survivors had obviously suffered from months, if not years, of starvation rations.
One soldier remembered that 'the living that were walking around were so gaunt; their heads were shaven; they had sores on their bodies.
Some were walking about naked in a daze.
Others had blankets wrapped around them, held together by a belt, and their facial features were normal size but everything else was completely out of proportion.' "


"A German Reichsbank official and U.S. Third Army troops examine bags of European currency hidden deep within a salt mine.
This hiding place, one of many maintained by the Nazis, also yielded an estimated 100 tons of gold bullion and several art treasures.
Nazi policy sanctioned the looting of billions of dollars worth of gold and other goods from Jewish and Christian owners.
Most of the gold came from the national banks of occupied nations, but some derived from the gold teeth and personal possessions of exterminated victims of the Holocaust.
We now know that governments and national banks of some neutral nations, especially Switzerland, helped launder looted gold, aiding the German war effort."


"U.S. Seventh Army soldiers carry a few of the priceless paintings discovered in Neuschwanstein Castle in Bavaria.
This loot had been earmarked for an art gallery at Linz, Austria, where Hitler had spent much of his childhood.
The pieces were collected on the orders of Hermann Göring, Nazi Germany's leading art thief."


"The Nazis elevated looting to the level of a dark art form, appropriating virtually everything of value that fell within their grasp.
As the Reich crumbled early in 1945, the Allies discovered increasing numbers of Nazi caches of valuables.
Here, First Lieutenant James Rorimer of the U.S. Seventh Army examines a tray of stolen antique jewelry, gold snuff boxes, and other items uncovered at Bavaria's Neuschwanstein Castle."


"Walking on makeshift artificial legs, crippled Russian and Polish prisoners accompany an American armored car at Mauthausen.
These prisoners had escaped the executions of disabled prisoners that occurred in the last days of the camp.
Many were double amputees, with little hope of returning to the lives and jobs they had before the war."



27 posted on 05/08/2015 6:37:29 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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To: notdownwidems; Tax-chick
Me: Well buy a Bronson.

You: I think you mean a Ronson?

Me: That's what I said - Ronson.

28 posted on 05/08/2015 6:38:00 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson; Clive; exg; Alberta's Child; albertabound; AntiKev; backhoe; Byron_the_Aussie; ...

Canada Ping!

29 posted on 05/08/2015 6:39:10 AM PDT by Squawk 8888 (Will steal your comments & post them on Twitter)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

It’s fairly easy to convey historical information. It’s harder to convey the incredible emotion of this historic day. Some things are simply beyond words, and sometimes you truly had to have been there, through the death, the loss, the destruction, the suffering, the sacrifice, the privation...

But I think the closest one can come to understanding that day is to look at the faces of those doing the celebrating. Their countenances convey what words cannot.

V E Day May 1945/Jump For Joy-Duke Ellington
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kW94GNM9FZo


30 posted on 05/08/2015 6:46:05 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: Homer_J_Simpson


31 posted on 05/08/2015 7:51:22 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Happy VE Day!


32 posted on 05/08/2015 7:53:08 AM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

http://events.dacast.com/?webcast_id=9

Live Webcast: Arsenal of Democracy:
World War II Victory Capitol Flyover
May 8th, 2015
10:15 -1300 ET

May 8, 2015
Ceremony 10:30- 11:45 AM
Flyover 12:10-12:50 PM
Live from the World War II Memorial Washington D.C.

To honor the heroes who fought in the War and those on the home front who produced the tanks, ships, and aircraft that enabled the United States and its Allies to achieve victory, one of the most diverse arrays of World War II aircraft ever assembled will fly above the skies of Washington, D.C. on Friday, May 8, 2015, the 70th anniversary of Victory in Europe (VE) Day, as part of the Arsenal of Democracy World War II Victory Capitol Flyover. The flyover will include dozens of World War II aircraft flying in 15 historically sequenced warbird formations overhead. The formations will represent the War’s major battles, from Pearl Harbor through the final air assault on Japan, and concluding with a missing man formation to “Taps.” Never before has such a collection of WWII aircraft been assembled at one location, to honor the large assemblage of veterans gathered at the WWII Memorial for a ceremony.

On Saturday, May 9, 2015, a selection of the planes will be featured at the National Air and Space Museum’s Steven F. Udvar-Hazy Center at Washington Dulles International Airport for a one day exhibition. The display will be open to the public 10:00 a.m. to 2:30 p.m. No advance tickets are required. Click HERE for details.

“They have given their sons to the military services. They have stoked the furnaces and hurried the factory wheels.
They have made the planes and welded the tanks, riveted the ships and rolled the shells.”

– President Franklin Delano Roosevelt, August 19, 1942


33 posted on 05/08/2015 8:08:02 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: Homer_J_Simpson; GeronL
I look forward to seeing the headline in August.

Is the front page of the Times of London for V-E Day available?

34 posted on 05/08/2015 8:16:25 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

42 May 8

FAST FORWARD TO AUGUST 1945 AND BEYOND
The war in Europe is over. Training and conditioning is ordered in case orders to ship to the Pacific were received.

Hurray for Truman. He dropped the bombs. The war in the Pacific is over. We won’t be going Island hopping. We will be going home. Whatever Redoubt there was must have on the Eastern front to hold back the Russians. The Nazis gave up fighting us. There were no Werwolves here.

Occupation in Austria is not bad in the meantime. We were in Salzburg, then the Gastein resort. A trainload of Jewish folks stopped off on their way to Israel. The castle, that was the center of the later ‘Sound of Music’, was now a beer hall. We gathered up watches, preferably black face or Mickey Mouse, for when we would be rotated to Vienna. The Russians would gobble them up at ungodly prices, paid for by occupation currency with our plates. Later the USA wised up and reissued the currency and gave us pay books to keep track of money sent back to the States. Woopee, I was 19 and it was wine, women and song.
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........................Later. Unfortunately, I did not go to Vienna. I liked the sound of Strauss music. I got a few promotions as senior guys went home. I wait for when my points are reached.

.........................My points are reached. I’m 20 now. Life would resume again, I’ll be old enough to vote next year, I’ll get my old job back with the railroad, maybe I can switch to days, I will go to college at night. I hope I’ll get admitted. I did not have a college prep preparation. I can shoot any weapon that can be carried. I hope that’s over.

......................... I’m heading for Hamburg. The SS India Victory awaits me. I’ll going to miss you guys. Keep in touch. Goodbye.

...........................I went to reunions for many years. These are my brothers. Not up to it anymore. Our reunions were augmented by the new 42nd from the Iraq wars. The torch is passed. A century of wars. Endless.


35 posted on 05/08/2015 8:40:46 AM PDT by ex-snook (To conquer use Jesus, not bombs.)
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To: wagglebee

I think the TIMES OF LONDON still had classifieds on the front page. lol.


36 posted on 05/08/2015 8:45:52 AM PDT by GeronL (Clearly Cruz 2016)
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To: GeronL
Thanks.
37 posted on 05/08/2015 8:48:14 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

38 posted on 05/08/2015 8:48:17 AM PDT by GeronL (Clearly Cruz 2016)
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To: wagglebee

A bigger image

(apparently headlines can change with different editions)

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03292/5thmay45front_3292964a.jpg


39 posted on 05/08/2015 8:49:25 AM PDT by GeronL (Clearly Cruz 2016)
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To: AU72
Stalin was not pleased about the May 7 surrender and insisted on one the following day in Berlin. The Russian general who witnessed the surrender in Rheims was recalled to Moscow and summarily shot.

According to Wikipedia, General Ivan Susloparov died in 1974.

40 posted on 05/08/2015 9:09:46 AM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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