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Posted on 04/10/2015 8:06:17 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
We endorsed Chuck DeVore in the GOP California Senate primary over Carly Fiorina. We did so because of DeVore’s proven record of staunch conservatism — which he continues fighting for now, having just helped kill a California open-carry ban — but also because we didn’t really trust or know anything about Fiorina. Carly’s conservative record was thin to nonexistent, and there were many troubling signs that she held liberal views. From her praise of Jesse Jackson, to her playing the race and gender cards against DeVore, to her support for the Wall Street bailouts, to her qualified support for the Obama stimulus, to her past support for taxation of sales on the Internet, to her waffling on immigration, to her support for Sonia Sotomayor, to her Master’s thesis advocating greater federal control of local education, to her past support for weakening California’s Proposition 13, to her statement to the San Francisco Chronicle editorial board that Roe v. Wade is “a decided issue,” Carly Fiorina’s oft-repeated claim to be a “lifelong conservative” was only plausible in the universe of NRSC staffers who recruited her in the first place.During the primary, Fiorina aggressively positioned herself to the right, aided by millions in self-funding and the support of a DC-based network more interested in her money and her connections than in any conservative principles. In addition to the NRSC’s unashamed support, Fiorina received the endorsement of major DC “pro-life” groups like the Susan B. Anthony List and the National Right to Life Committee — and got the backing of Gov. Sarah Palin and a host of DC Republicans, from Lindsey Graham to John McCain.All these groups, and our supposed betters in the party establishment, fed us several lines on Carly: that no matter what her actual record said she was “one of us”; that she would hold to her conservatism in the general election and in the Senate; that she had a better chance of beating Barbara Boxer than Chuck Devore; and that even if she wasn’t conservative, she was still better than Barbara Boxer.Whether the latter two are true or not, and I think for certain that Carly Fiorinia will be demonstrably better than Barbara Boxer, everything is hypothetical now except that those of us who knew better understood that in the general election, the great lurch left of center would begin.Let’s not abandon Carly Fiorina, but lest you be under some impression that she’ll be solidly and forthrightly with us in the Senate, understand what you are getting.The moment the great lurch left began came this past Wednesday, September 1st, in the televised debate between Carly Fiorina and Barbara Boxer.In the debate, which was dominated — as I told you repeatedly during the primary that it would be — by Boxer going on offense over Fiorina’s time as CEO of Hewlett-Packard, Carly Fiorina let loose three bombshells on conservatives:
On that last, Barbara Boxer was swift to respond: “If you can’t take a stand on Proposition 23, I don’t know what you will take a stand on.” Which brings us to the only time in the history of RedState we’ll agree with her. On September 3rd, her campaign sent out an e-mail saying she supports Prop 23 — not quite 48 hours after refusing to take a position in the televised debate with Boxer.To restate all this, Carly Fiorina abandoned pro-lifers, immigration conservatives, and every Californian who can’t find work because of their state’s eco-radical legislation (she did try about 48 hours later to get that group back). Here’s the kicker: none of this is a surprise. At least, none of it is a surprise if you paid attention to Carly’s actual record, instead of her campaign claims.So what now? Do we abandon Carly Fiorina? Polls show that she’s got an even shot at becoming the next Senator from California, which is better than any Boxer opponent has managed since 1992. Now that she’s shed any pretense of being a full-on conservative — and now that she’s apparently decided she doesn’t need her own party’s base — where does that leave us? Sure, she’s still better than Boxer. So is my dog, at least my hypothetical dog I intend to get and name Max once I have a house and yard big enough to accommodate a Chesapeake Bay Retriever.Here’s what we need to understand from this:
If you’re in California, absolutely and willingly vote for Carly Fiorina. But do so understanding who Carly Fiorina actually is. The mask is off, and there’s a squishy moderate underneath. In the Golden State, the sad truth is that our best hope is to replace a radical with a RINO. Considering the choice we could have had, that’s a shame.
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Good post, Pubbie.
Here’s how to understand Fiorina:
Look and see if she has ever won an election.
Thanks!
Or look at her tenure at HP. It wasn't impressive.
We know she’s a RINO who along with Ben Carson, Mike Huckabee, and Rick Santorum are also rans who have no shot at the nomination so I don’t concern myself with her.
I guess maybe she figures on getting the female vote. I don't know about other female conservatives, but I don't vote based on gender. I vote for whoever is qualified for the job. Right now, that's Ted Cruz.
She was the sales bimbo who single -handedly ruined HP, which was once tbe best instrumentation company evah.
“She was the sales bimbo who single -handedly ruined HP, which was once tbe best instrumentation company evah.”
She wasn’t any good at Lucent either.
I remember lots of stories about Fiorina being ultra controlling, manipulative, and creating a hostile atmosphere at HP.
As a veteran of the DeVore v. Fiorina battles... a most excellent summary of Carly.
Understanding Carly Fiorina = STATIST... like the Bush’s..
For all you purists out there: Get over it. There is no such thing as a perfect candidate, one who satisfies all elements of the party. There AIN’T one! Find someone who has the cajones or ovaries to win and back ‘em 100 percent with all you have. Otherwise prepare to live in a Marxist hell for the foreseeable future. JMHO!!
Hard to see her as a national candidate. No credibility. Maybe she can try again to win a seat in California first?
Cruz is perfect for me.
“Here’s how to understand Fiorina: Look and see if she has ever won an election.”
Don’t forget to look at how she drove HP into the ground when she was CEO there in 1999-2005 before the board was forced to fire her. She’s frequently been ranked as one of the worst tech CEOs of all time. It would therefore be laughable for her to try to play off of her “business experience”, and other than that, nada; well, maybe not nada if you include unbounded ambition backed by unbounded incompetence.
” Don’t forget to look at how she drove HP into the ground when she was CEO there in 1999-2005 “
She gutted the domestic operations of HP like a fish.
Fired Americans, and moved most operations to Malaysia and India. I wouldn’t waste a mouth full of spit on her.
Here's a FR thread from way back regarding her fulsome praise for the wonderfulness of muslim contributions to the world.
Fiorina is bringing it to the left and Hillary so what do you do? Knock Fiorina down. What’s the freaking point? It’s like abandoning the A-10 because you want something better. What she’s doing right now is admirable and should be encouraged. What she did before I don’t give two craps.
If Carly wants to help, she should endorse Cruz.
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