Orly Taitz files third lawsuit in federal court [Brownsville, TX]

Prove it.

Facts are proven. They are communicated.

Fantasies are not facts. They can also be communicated. But they can not be proven.

http://newscentral.exsees.com/item/76ca1fc233a5b1ee39b0e14ae94f9805-cf89be85112c077d0a1c6562cf962665

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I’ve got a question about this post by Sven, from another thread:

“The American people voted to install an ineligible President on Jan. 20, 2009, void the US Constitution, void the United States Code, fire all US executive and judicial federal officers from all three branches of government, except Obama and Biden, and fire executive and judicial officers of the various states.

The votes, bills, proclamations or any other product of the legislatures of the various states have been voided after the installation of an ineligible President.

Only the People of the United States, Obama and Biden have authority to call a convention for development of a national governing document.
“

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3274207/posts?page=72#72

My question:

If only the people & the VP & the prez remain,

and the executive and judicial feds, executive and judicial of all the states were fired by 0’s election,

and the US Code, and any product of the state legislature are void,

then how are we to convene a convention of the states?

Again pinging to #72 here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3274207/posts?page=72#72

In the last sentence of post #72, Sven is asking for a convention of the states to be headed up by 0, Biden, and ‘the people’.

0 and Biden

Did all y’all get the significance of that?

I never voted for those two characters, and I certainly would not want them heading up a convention of the states!!!

(I would wager many FReepers would not want them meddling either.)

Mark for later read and study.

>> Online law degree ...

Don’t mock the Cloud...

Here’s some more trivia: September 16, 1983 is the same day Arnold Schwarzenegger became a US Citizen.

Arnold's Big Day (and apparently Barry's too):

Arnold's Big Day: photo Arnold S Naturalization 09 16 1983_zpshuntq8mg.jpg

Constitutional Eligibility

you mean the mulatto bastard has actually pulled off the coup ?

Yup. There are even some rude people on FR who seem to be all for it.

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The media made a laughing stock of her. Same as they did with George Bush and Sarah Palin. The MSM is our enemy.

I agree. At least she’s doing something. Even if nothing comes of it, I hope someday the truth comes out—maybe after BO is out of office, but I just hope at least it comes out.

In 1761, the colonists were loyal British subjects. The sole governing authority over the collective of idea that colonists should be independent of King George III was known as Congress. With no power and no ability to enforce any of its decisions, Congress, declared independence, conducted a war that defeated one of the greatest military powers at the time, and created a sovereign independent nation.

In June 1776, as Thomas Jefferson composed a draft of the Declaration of Independence. Congress adopted the Declaration of Independence on July 4, 1776. By the time the members of Congress had signed their names to the final, edited document, an invading force of British soldiers had landed in New York.

Excerpted from:

http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/charters_of_freedom_3.html

Now that Orly Taitz has finally figured out evidence is discovered and not verified in Discovery, the court’s are dismissing her cases before discovery can begin. An Eligibility Clause challenge, like an Appointments Clause challenge, questions the sovereignty of the United States and should be addressed before any procedural rules or motions entered into the record by US federal officer with a vested interest in the outcome of the trial are entertained.

Our system of nominating, qualifying, voting, assigning Electors and the counting of the Electors’ votes is designed to make it difficult to elect an ineligible President, but not impossible. An ineligible President voids the sovereignty of the United States. The American people and the States delegated some of the sovereignty to the US federal government. The American people and the States can retain their sovereignty and terminate the sovereignty of the US federal government by electing an ineligible President.

From what I can tell, Obama and Biden plan to vacate the White House on Jan. 20, 2017. New leadership will restore an opportunity to re-establish a constitutional republic. Quite possibly a constitutional republic where life begins at conception, a balanced budget is a requirement for the federal government to continue to operate, the IRS is a faded memory, the EPA is a faded memory, the Energy Department is a faded memory, etc.

sven how did obama get a certificate of loss of nationality??? splain me again please.

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/120538.pdf

e. Parents or guardians cannot renounce or relinquish the U.S. citizenship of a child who acquired U.S. citizenship at birth.

(2) Voluntariness and intent: Minors who seek to renounce citizenship often
do so at the behest of or under pressure from one or more parent. If such
pressure is so overwhelming as to negate the free will of the minor, it
cannot be said that the statutory act of expatriation was committed
voluntarily. The younger the minor is at the time of renunciation, the more
influence the parent is assumed to have. Even in the absence of any
evidence of parental inducements or pressure, you and CA must make a
judgment whether the individual minor manifested the requisite maturity to
appreciate the irrevocable nature of expatriation. Absent that maturity, it
NCLASSIFIED (U)
U.S. Department of State Foreign Affairs Manual Volume 7
Consular Affairs
7 FAM 1290 Page 3 of 11
UNCLASSIFIED (U)
cannot be said that the individual acted voluntarily. Moreover, it must be
determined if the minor lacked intent, because he or she did fully
understand what he or she was doing. Children under 16 are presumed
not to have the requisite maturity and knowing intent;

Loss of nationality is a two step process: 1) renouncement and 2) relinquishment by the issuance of a certificate of loss of nationality (CLN) by the US government. US citizenship is not lost until a CLN is issued. A US citizen who has renounced is entitled to a US passport until a CLN is issued, assuming appropriate fees are paid, the application is properly filled out and supporting documents are submitted. A US citizen who has renounced is entitled the the privileges and immunities of any other US citizen until a CLN issued. Anyone of any age has a right to move out of the US and renounce. You are quoting a 2009 policy statement and not US federal law. It is unlawful for the State Department to inform anyone they cannot renounce.

The policy statement you are quoting concerns a 2009 policy that the State Department will not issue a CLN for a child under 16. This policy was not in effect in 1968. The President, by an through the Secretary of State, unilaterally decides who is issued a CLN and who is not issued a CLN. It is quite possible for an individual to move out of the country in 1968, renounce and be issued a CLN; while in 2009 and with a similar set of circumstances with a different President, a CLN will be denied. CLNs issued to minors are issued with the caveat the minor may announce their intent to the return to the US and recapture their US citizenship until 6 months past their age of majority. See Perkins v. Elg, 307 U.S. 325 (1939).

Marie Elg was native born person who expatriated with her parents during her minority. Her father renounced her US citizenship during her minority and she was refused a US passport during her majority. This could have only happened if she had been issued a CLN. Later, the Secretary of State intervened and Marie Elg was issued a US passport to return to the US to recapture her US citizenship. The Secretary of State would have to cancel Marie Elg's CLN before he could have ordered the State Department to issue her a US passport.

Later, Marie Elg was living in America and was denied a renewed US passport and threatened with deportation. She sued in the District Court for a writ of mandamus and an injunction against deportation. The District ruled she was a natural born citizen of the United States and the Circuit Court affirmed the ruling. SCOTUS affirmed, but modified the ruling to opine Marie Elg was a natural born citizen in the United States. In other words, Marie Elg was natural born citizen when she was born, then she wasn't a natural born citizen after her father renounced on her behalf, and finally she as a natural born citizen again after she returned to the US to begin living as a US citizen.

Recall that Obama was considered a US citizen at birth pursuant to the 14th Amendment and a British subject at birth pursuant to the British Nationality Act. Factcheck.org explains:

When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.’s children:

British Nationality Act of 1948 (Part II, Section 5): Subject to the provisions of this section, a person born after the commencement of this Act shall be a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies by descent if his father is a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies at the time of the birth.

In other words, at the time of his birth, Barack Obama Jr. was both a U.S. citizen (by virtue of being born in Hawaii) and a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies (or the UKC) by virtue of being born to a father who was a citizen of the UKC.

Obama’s British citizenship was short-lived. On Dec. 12, 1963, Kenya formally gained its independence from the United Kingdom. Chapter VI, Section 87 of the Kenyan Constitution specifies that:

1. Every person who, having been born in Kenya, is on 11th December, 1963 a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies or a British protected person shall become a citizen of Kenya on 12th December, 1963…

2. Every person who, having been born outside Kenya, is on 11th December, 1963 a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies or a British protected person shall, if his father becomes, or would but for his death have become, a citizen of Kenya by virtue of subsection (1), become a citizen of Kenya on 12th December, 1963.

As a citizen of the UKC who was born in Kenya, Obama’s father automatically received Kenyan citizenship via subsection (1). So given that Obama qualified for citizen of the UKC status at birth and given that Obama’s father became a Kenyan citizen via subsection (1), it follows that Obama did in fact have Kenyan citizenship after 1963.

The Marie Elg case set the precedent that Obama was not a natural born citizen when he moved to Indonesia. Consequently, SoS Rusk issued Obama a CLN. Marie Elg notified the State Department she intended to recapture her US citizenship before the 6 month expiration past her age of majority. Obama did not notify the State Department he intended to recapture his US citizenship within the 6 month expiration date past his age of majority. Consequently, Obama naturalized in 1983 to become a US citizen.

I suggest you reread section 349 (a) 1 of the INA 1952 and its amendments here is the 1952 act:

http://tesibria.typepad.com/whats_your_evidence/1952_Immigration_and_Nationality_Act_66Statxx_TitleIII_Chapter3.pdf

LOSS OF NATIONALITY BY NATIVE-BORN OR NATURALIZED CITIZEN SEC. 349. (a) From and after the effective date of this Act a person ~110 is a national of the United States whether by birth or naturalization, shall lose his nationality by-

(1) obtaining naturalization in a foreign state upon his own application, upon an application filed in his behalf by a parent, guardian, or duly authorized agent, or through the naturalization of a parent having legal custody of such person: Provided, That nationality shall not be lost by any person under this section as the result of the naturalization of a parent or parents while such person is under the age of twenty-one years, or as the result of a naturalization obtained on behalf of a person under twenty-one years of age by a parent, guardian, or duly authorized agent, unless such person shall fail to enter the United States to establish a permanent residence prior to his twenty-fifth birthday: A