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EPA rules on residential wood heaters fuel outcry in Minnesota, Wisconsin
Pioneer Press ^ | 3-7-15 | David Lieb

Posted on 03/09/2015 6:47:48 AM PDT by TurboZamboni

Smoke wafting from wood fires has long provided a familiar winter smell in many parts of the country -- and, in some cases, a foggy haze that has filled people's lungs with fine particles that can cause coughing and wheezing. Citing health concerns, the Environmental Protection Agency now is pressing ahead with regulations to significantly limit the pollution from newly manufactured residential wood heaters. But some of the states with the most wood smoke -- including Minnesota and Wisconsin -- are refusing to go along, claiming that the EPA's new rules could leave low-income residents in the cold.

Missouri and Michigan already have barred their environmental agencies from enforcing the EPA standards. Similar measures recently passed Virginia's legislature and are pending in at least three other states, even though residents in some places say the rules don't do enough to clear the air. It's been a harsh winter for many people, particularly those in regions repeatedly battered by snow. And the EPA's new rules are stoking fears that some residents won't be able to afford new stoves when their older models give out.

"People have been burning wood since the beginning of recorded time," said Phillip Todd, 59, who uses a wood-fired furnace to heat his home in Holts Summit. "They're trying to regulate it out of existence, I believe, and they really have no concern about the economic consequences or the hardship it's going to cause.

(Excerpt) Read more at twincities.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Minnesota; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: agw; epa; globalwarming; heat; heaters; manbearpig; minnesota; renewable; residential; tyrants; wisconsin; wood; woodheaters
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To: TurboZamboni

*** ... in some cases, a foggy haze that has filled people’s lungs with fine particles that can cause coughing and wheezing.****

And in OUR AREA, it comes form controlled burns by the National Forest Service down in the Ozark National Forest about sixty miles from here but blankets all of NW Arkansas.

Home owners are no problem.


41 posted on 03/09/2015 7:59:41 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: TurboZamboni
“Today Minnesota, tomorrow zah Vorld!”

“Ja, and our Socialist friends in the media will help to bring about poor people freezing through the Algore science, let them die and decrease the surplus population.”

-EPA (and anyone who promotes the Global Warming Scam)

42 posted on 03/09/2015 8:01:42 AM PDT by PATRIOT1876
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To: ilovesarah2012

I have a pile of Oklahoma coal for blacksmith work. it will work in a wood stove if I make a grate to allow air flow under it. It smells like sulfur asphalt when I burn it.

No neighbors for a mile. ;-)


43 posted on 03/09/2015 8:02:22 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Morpheus2009

Wonder if the EPA would find something wrong with Ben Franklin’s downdraft no smoke stove.


44 posted on 03/09/2015 8:06:16 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Of course they would, he made CO2... And then they would want to charge his family for his decomposition...


45 posted on 03/09/2015 8:08:58 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: TurboZamboni
Don't these Lumpen Proletariat know they would be better off moving into efficient concrete apartment blocks, letting us regulate the common heat for the purpose of saving our precious environment, using mass transportation to preserve scarce energy, and maintaining public order with our Party Block Wardens?

Obviously, some of these hooligans require some stringent re-education...

46 posted on 03/09/2015 8:09:54 AM PDT by Gritty (Between Iran and ISIS, the enemy of my enemy is ... my enemy! - Benjamin Netanyahu)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Finally, some people actually understand that limited forest fires are actually good for the environment (ash is good fertilizer with Potassium, for instance...)


47 posted on 03/09/2015 8:10:07 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea
"and to remove the clinkers from the furnace."

Now that is a phrase I have not heard for over 50 years!

48 posted on 03/09/2015 8:32:35 AM PDT by buckalfa (First time listener, long time caller.)
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To: rottndog

> Yep....local law enforcement exercising their prosecutorial
> discretion....Obama surely couldn’t have a problem with that.

That’s why he wants to federalize the local police.


49 posted on 03/09/2015 8:41:54 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it)
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To: TurboZamboni

Meanwhile, on another front, laws allowing usage of Marijuana is being pushed in almost every state.

Who is going to hire anyone high all the time???


50 posted on 03/09/2015 8:45:33 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Da Coyote
It us time to tell the EPA that their actions have consequences. Bad ones. And back those statements up.

Like the way we used to tar and feather Federal tax officials in these parts back during the Whiskey Rebellion.


51 posted on 03/09/2015 8:52:26 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: ridesthemiles

When harvesting sugar cane in Hawaii, do they still set the fields on fire first to burn off the unwanted biomass?

What does the EPA say about this?


52 posted on 03/09/2015 8:55:38 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: TurboZamboni
"They're trying to regulate it out of existence, I believe, and they really have no concern about the economic consequences or the hardship it's going to cause.

The Managerial State (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Managerial_state) doesn't like it when it's not getting a piece of the pie for everyday NEEDS.

The EPA already has the regulations in place. Now The Managers just have to nibble away at the balking states.

53 posted on 03/09/2015 8:59:45 AM PDT by kiryandil (making the jests that some FReepers aren't allowed to...)
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To: Westbrook
In NH, revolt is expressed by people ignoring the “regulations” and the police looking the other way.

For now. The Managers will eventually make the disobedient NH peasants a priority. :)

54 posted on 03/09/2015 9:00:42 AM PDT by kiryandil (making the jests that some FReepers aren't allowed to...)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Remember the days when America was a free country and the government wasn’t out of control?

Welcome to The Managerial State:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Managerial_state

It's why we have a Uniparty.

55 posted on 03/09/2015 9:02:56 AM PDT by kiryandil (making the jests that some FReepers aren't allowed to...)
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To: TurboZamboni

The only way to survive this horsecrap is mass violation and state’s rights.


56 posted on 03/09/2015 9:03:19 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Adversity does not build character so much as expose it.)
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To: hadaclueonce

The kings wood.


57 posted on 03/09/2015 9:04:50 AM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: Wildbill22
After the IRS, the EPA is at the top of the list of bloated useless bureaucratic agencies that should be shut down.

IRS, EPA, and Department of Education. And big cuts, stringent non-PC regulatons and penalties for wrongdoing against Americans to NSA and DHS.

58 posted on 03/09/2015 9:24:44 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (The greatest danger facing our world: the marriage of militant Islam with nuclear weapons.-Netanyahu)
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To: MrB

The comment seems to have been...

“Let them burn cake!”

LOL


59 posted on 03/09/2015 9:28:19 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (The question is Jeb Bush. The answer is NO!)
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To: MrB
Actually, that leaves people too open to being able to produce their own food and travel at will. Better that they live in high density high rises and use public transportation to get to their gov’t assigned job.

There is an obscure but wonderful Czech film called My Sweet Little Village made just before communism was overthrown there. It shows exactly what you describe, The village idiot who kept birds as food and survived in a little town where people traded food was sent to live in a huge cement city, live in an apartment and work in a factory.

The movie showed the bumbling communist bureaucracy's attempts to manage social problems, such as the town doctor being a drunk and a poor driver, but is nevertheless able to report on citizen misbehavior to the government. It is a wonderfully comic little film, and won an Academy Award for Best Foreign Language Film.

When I first saw it in the 80s, I felt such an American sense of relief at our contrast to their ridiculous work camps with red stars over the gates and regimentation of the people. I watched it again recently and felt so sad at how much our system has come to resemble what I once laughed at.

60 posted on 03/09/2015 9:37:49 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (The greatest danger facing our world: the marriage of militant Islam with nuclear weapons.-Netanyahu)
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