The Black Family in 1965 and Today

Townhall.com ^ | February 26, 2015 | Steve Chapman

[Gaffer]

Gee. I thought “Blackish” is the real black family now.

[Walrus]

Not buying it, Chapman.

[ifinnegan]

What’s the white bastard birth rate up to?

Not 72%, I’m sure, but getting pretty high as well.

[rightwingcrazy]

“If family breakdown causes poverty, poverty also causes family breakdown. “

What the rate of family breakdown in India, or South America? Doesn’t seem to follow that poverty or even income inequality have anything to do with this.

[17th Miss Regt]

I seem to remember a quote of 25% a few years ago. It may be 30% by now.

[familyop]

The same is true of a large portion of white families. Men with military experience, clean living and clean backgrounds are treated like dirt under the feet of the vice-ridden, socially pathological, government-supported establishment.

[ifinnegan]

The out of wedlock percent for the entire country is 40%.

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/unmarried-childbearing.htm

[MrB]

The only “white people forcing blacks to have babies out of wedlock” are white liberals, and they aren’t as much “forcing” the problem as they are incentivizing the problem through liberal welfare policies.

[Blood of Tyrants]

“A lot of the well-paid blue-collar jobs once abundant in cities have vanished. Moynihan lamented that unemployment had long been much higher for black men than for whites, and the gap is bigger today.”

A lot of the well paying blue collar jobs have gone to illegal aliens who will work for much less.

[ifinnegan]

You’re right.

White rate for bastards is 30%.

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr64/nvsr64_01_tables.pdf

As of 2013.

[baltimorepoet]

Maybe if blacks want to be successful, they should emulate Asian and their values instead of robbing and murdering them.

[econjack]

This is a bunch of crappy half-truths. The black family does little to reinforce the importance of education and finishing school. Black males see it as a badge of honor to father a child, but rarely have any intention of helping to support that child. The War on Poverty has thrown trillions of dollars at poverty, with a disproportionate share going to blacks, but recent GOA reports show poverty is worse now than when the WoP started back in the 1960's. Why? Because the programs are designed to make blacks dependent on gov't welfare rather than address the causes of poverty. How does giving away free cell phones help eliminate poverty?

States are finally starting to wake up. Some states now require you to show up for a state job, perhaps cleaning toilets in public buildings, but a job nonetheless, before you can collect welfare payments. And, guess what's happening to welfare payments in those states that have such a policy? As to the black social problems and the decline of the black family unit, I see no effort on the part of the black community to address these problems. And until such effort is forthcoming, I see no reason to support the current welfare programs that pay money to able-bodied workers.

[tx_eggman]

It's tempting to blame African-American social ills on the modern welfare state, which allegedly breeds idleness. But most poor black households are poor despite having at least one adult who works.

39% of welfare recipients are black.
70%+ of black children are born out of wedlock (i.e. into single parent families)

... Chapman's claim that "most poor black households are poor despite having at least one adult who works" doesn't hold water

[Teacher317]

It's true that whites don't force blacks to have children out of wedlock. But it's wrong to suggest that whites bear no responsibility. Poverty is often the result of lack of access to good jobs or any jobs, and discrimination by employers didn't stop in 1965 -- and hasn't stopped yet.

Always blame Whitey

[baltimorepoet]

“If family breakdown causes poverty, poverty also causes family breakdown."

Seems to me that a married couple with 2 children pooling their resources, possibly with help of extended family, should be able to deal with poverty better than a couple maintaining separate households. (sort of like what Asians often do) I guess there may be something to those "family values" after all. Incentivizing lack of restraint and saving for the future, panders to the lowest common denominator in terms of character, and encourages a race to the bottom... witness the decline of the white family, following the decline of the black family. But that's just mathematics, something liberals don't understand, otherwise they'd exercise fiscal restraint.

[Responsibility2nd]

Blah, blah, blah...

The reason why the black family has been annihilated is easy. It was by design. It was carefully crafted and created by Lyndon Baines “I’ll have them ni***** voting democratic for the next 200 years” Johnson and his Great Society.

And just as easy is the solution: Cut welfare bennies by 2/3 or more. Have personal responsibility. Get an education, get a job, get married.

Simple. Easy. Problem solved.

[reg45]

If I recall correctly, Daniel Patrick Moynihan was a Democrat.

[baltimorepoet]

39% of welfare recipients are black. 70%+ of black children are born out of wedlock (i.e. into single parent families)

Interestingly, I did a few rough calculations based on 30% of whites and 72% of blacks being born out of wedlock and blacks being 13% of population... the percentage of children born out of wedlock that are black is not that far off from the percentage of welfare recipients that are black.

[nascarnation]

Lyndon Johnson was incredibly successful at delivering a plan to lock in votes for Democrats essentially forever.