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Man, 72, faces 10 years in prison for antique pistol: ‘Beware of New Jersey’
http://www.washingtontimes.com ^ | 02/17/2015 | By Jessica Chasmar

Posted on 02/17/2015 8:39:57 AM PST by redreno

Gordon Van Gilder, a 72-year-old retired schoolteacher in New Jersey, faces a 10-year prison sentence for possessing an unloaded 18th-century flintlock pistol in his car.

Mr. Van Gilder, a collector of 18th-century memorabilia, said he had the gun unloaded and wrapped in a cloth in the glove compartment of his vehicle when he was pulled over in November by a Cumberland County sheriff’s deputy for a minor traffic violation, according to a video posted last week by NRA News.

After consenting to a search of his vehicle, Mr. Van Gilder said he alerted the deputy of the pistol in his glove box. The deputy let him go that night, but four police officers showed up at his home the next morning with an arrest warrant, he told NRA News.

“Beware of New Jersey. Don’t come here. Don’t live here,” Mr. Van Gilder said. “Here I am, a retired teacher coming out of his house in handcuffs, who had a flintlock pistol and now I’m charged as a felon. It’s unbelievable. It’s outrageous. It’s an insult to decent people.”

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; a; bang; banglist; bewarenewjersey; chrischristie; flintlock; govtabuse; guns; krispykreme; newjersey; secondamendment; tyranny
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1 posted on 02/17/2015 8:39:57 AM PST by redreno
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To: redreno

I thought the second amendment for sure covered musketts and flintlocks......?????

Well supposedly according to libs...


2 posted on 02/17/2015 8:42:06 AM PST by GraceG (Protect the Border from Illegal Aliens, Don't Protect Illegal Alien Boarders...)
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To: redreno

After consenting to a search of his vehicle. HELL NO!


3 posted on 02/17/2015 8:42:18 AM PST by showme_the_Glory ((ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government))
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To: redreno

We are no longer a free people. It’s done and over.


4 posted on 02/17/2015 8:43:12 AM PST by joethedrummer
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To: redreno

Governor Crispy Cream does not need to be president.


5 posted on 02/17/2015 8:43:59 AM PST by Cold Heart
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To: redreno

There was a thread on this yesterday. Someone posted the New Jersey law. The law is crazy, but antique pistols are included.


6 posted on 02/17/2015 8:44:32 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra (Don't touch that thing Don't let anybody touch that thing!I'm a Doctor and I won't touch that thing!)
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To: redreno

New Jersey: An “Insult to Decent People”.


7 posted on 02/17/2015 8:45:25 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (Bush / Clinton 2016! Clinton / Bush 2020! Uniparty Rules!)
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To: redreno
After consenting to a search of his vehicle,

Mistake number 1.

Mr. Van Gilder said he alerted the deputy of the pistol in his glove box. 

Mistake number 2.

If you live in New Jersey and you own guns, repeat after me, "No. I do not consent to a search. Am I free to go or are you detaining me?"

8 posted on 02/17/2015 8:46:18 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
The law is crazy, but antique pistols are included.

And it is still a violation of the 2dA.

9 posted on 02/17/2015 8:46:25 AM PST by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: redreno

Joisey.
where sanity is optional..
and only criminals carry pieces.


10 posted on 02/17/2015 8:47:21 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: redreno
After consenting to a search of his vehicle

No way he should have done this.

11 posted on 02/17/2015 8:49:18 AM PST by Iron Munro (Mark Steyn: “fundamentally transformed” is a euphemism for “wrecked beyond repair.”)
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To: Cold Heart

Barry’s maintenance cost is astronomical, especially when one understands the fact that his occupancy of the White Hut is illegal. But to envision what New Jersey’s lard ass will gobble up would be scary.

Barry the Parasite is off much of the time, but when he’s awake he’s spending billions upon billions if not for himself then for the lazy-assed bloodsuckers we have to support.


12 posted on 02/17/2015 8:50:16 AM PST by HomerBohn (God is just, but his justice cannot sleep forever!)
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To: redreno
Here is a list of several things that really upsets about this

1. Why is a cop looking into someones glove box without a warrant.

2. How could a people be so stupid to allow such laws exist.

3. How could a cop or cops be so anti-American that they would enforce a law so obviously unconstitutional. That means that they would enforce ANY law ... think boxcars.

This is a VERY abbreviated list as this arrest and prosecution is so wrong on so many levels

13 posted on 02/17/2015 8:51:01 AM PST by clamper1797 (I'm a Tea Party Conservative ... in my opinion that makes me "Politically Correct")
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To: redreno

The Second Amendment is intended to protect decent people from a government like they have in New Jersey.


14 posted on 02/17/2015 8:51:44 AM PST by MeganC (You can ignore reality, but reality won't ignore you.)
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To: redreno
After consenting to a search of his vehicle

FIRST MISTAKE!

15 posted on 02/17/2015 8:52:19 AM PST by Old Sarge (Its the Sixties all over again, but with crappy music...)
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After consenting to a search of his vehicle

All downhill from there. Hopefully common-sense will prevail and this man will avoid jail-time. But, this is NJ we we are talking about so little chance of that.

Biding my time by leveraging a good-paying job, and aggressively socking away my pennies for my eventual exit from the PRNJ.

I wish this man all the best.

16 posted on 02/17/2015 8:52:42 AM PST by American Infidel (Instead of vilifying success, try to emulate it)
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To: redreno

Can you carry a handgun if it’s in a case or the trunk. How are you supposed to transport in New Jersey?


17 posted on 02/17/2015 8:52:54 AM PST by ImNotLying (Obama is Neville Chamberlain reincarnated)
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Can you carry a handgun if it’s in a case or the trunk. How are you supposed to transport in New Jersey?

First mistake, even considering going through that state and to the south, Maryland.


18 posted on 02/17/2015 8:56:37 AM PST by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: Old Sarge
FIRST MISTAKE!

No that was his second mistake. His first was living in NJ.

19 posted on 02/17/2015 8:56:49 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: showme_the_Glory

Never ever, never, never, never give consent. Give them consent to allow you to call your lawyer and have him present. Otherwise, tell them to get a dog, get a news crew, get a f@cking warrant. NEVER !


20 posted on 02/17/2015 8:57:14 AM PST by Gaffer
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