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Why Are Jews Liberals
Wall Street Journal (WsJ.com) ^ | September 10, 2009 | Norman Podhoretz

Posted on 02/02/2015 8:26:07 AM PST by Reverend Saltine

These numbers remind us of the extent to which the continued Jewish commitment to the Democratic Party has become an anomaly. All the other ethno-religious groups that, like the Jews, formed part of the coalition forged by Franklin Delano Roosevelt in the 1930s have followed the rule that increasing prosperity generally leads to an increasing identification with the Republican Party. But not the Jews. As the late Jewish scholar Milton Himmelfarb said in the 1950s: "Jews earn like Episcopalians"—then the most prosperous minority group in America—"and vote like Puerto Ricans," who were then the poorest.

Jews also remain far more heavily committed to the liberal agenda than any of their old ethno-religious New Deal partners. As the eminent sociologist Nathan Glazer has put it, "whatever the promptings of their economic interests," Jews have consistently supported "increased government spending, expanded benefits to the poor and lower classes, greater regulations on business, and the power of organized labor."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: jewsdemocrat; jewsliberal; liberaljews; marvelcomics; stanlee
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To: PrairieLady2

Shhhhh... don’t interrupt the ritual Jew-baiting.

Which is yet another reason Jewish people are turned off by conservatives.

Jewish people are slowly (too slowly) trending conservative. I often wonder if stupid threads like this are posted by trolls (or used by trolls) to keep Jews on the Democrat Plantation by bringing out all the cretins.


41 posted on 02/02/2015 9:25:41 AM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: Reverend Saltine
European Jews, particularly the more educated ones, have been the mainstays of liberal-progressivism long before the Holocaust. The various anarchist and socialist movements in Europe from the late 1700s through today were by no mean secret Jewish conspiracies, but a disproportionate part of the leaders and thinkers were Jewish.

I think this is a cultural thing that is possibly a reaction to the various pogroms and general disdain European society held for the Jewish people for many centuries, and it has become a major factor culturally among many Jews.

42 posted on 02/02/2015 9:26:30 AM PST by AzSteven ("War is less costly than servitude, the choice is always between Verdun and Dachau." Jean Dutourd)
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To: Reverend Saltine

And some of them hated and still hate FDR because he did nothing to rescue Jews prior to the holocaust. I know that there are Jewish women who will fight like crazy for abortion “rights” because of the incidence of genetic diseases in some Jewish populations with the theory is that this option has to be there in case the baby tests positive. Also there were Jews who in spite of the evil that the USSR did to them after WWII figured that anything was better than the Nazis.


43 posted on 02/02/2015 9:42:14 AM PST by Mercat
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To: RayChuang88
Sounds like my Catholic parents. They voted for and identified as Dems all their lives despite being very religious and socially conservative. My father was a WWII vet as well and fiercely patriotic. Republicans were rich, greedy people who hated the poor and disliked Catholics.

Everybody who was Catholic I knew voted for Dems. Certainly, at my Catholic grade school all the nuns were pro-Kennedy and Democrats. I assumed all my Protestant neighbors voted for Republicans.

Then one day a Catholic family moved into the neighborhood. The father was an extra nice guy .....and a Republican!!! I still remember the Goldwater sticker on his car. I asked my father why a nice guy like Mr. B...... would vote for Republicans. Especially if he was a Catholic. My father didn't have an answer.

My mother and father had voted for Dems all their lives, because that's what middle class Catholics were supposed to do. They're both dead now, but in his latter years my father called himself an independent. He never told me, but I wonder what caused him to change.

44 posted on 02/02/2015 9:44:52 AM PST by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: Reverend Saltine; KC_Lion

One overlooked factor is that Jewish children are pushed by their parents to go to college and get degreees and guess where the biggest liberal indoctrination mills at???

Usually at the “best” schools...

So their parents scrimp and save and work extra hard at their own businesses so when their kids get back from them they want to support the very policies that are antithetical to what helped pay for their own education.

If the colleges were not such indoctrination mills there would be fewer liberals in general population and far fewer in Jewish circles.


45 posted on 02/02/2015 9:45:08 AM PST by GraceG (Protect the Border from Illegal Aliens, Don't Protect Illegal Alien Boarders...)
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To: Reverend Saltine

If you wanted to discuss this subject, couldn’t you have found a more recent article?


46 posted on 02/02/2015 9:49:25 AM PST by Lisbon1940
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To: Reverend Saltine

Just like Christian denominations, most “Jews” are only genetically Jewish, they are not faithful, or as many of my Jewish friends tell me; “We are not practicing Jews.” Too many “Christians” are not practicing Christians either. In plainer words, both non-practicing Jews, and Christians in name only, are not followers of God, thus they are secular humanists practicing moral relativism, so they vote opposite of Godly morality.

Not that the GOP is a much better representation of Godly morality, where they have taken the “Christian” vote for granted as they capitulate to most all of the progressive left’s wretched ideology.


47 posted on 02/02/2015 9:51:07 AM PST by Blue Collar Christian (Ready for Teddy. Cruz, that is. Texas conservative.)
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To: Jewbacca

“They are urban Yankees. And thus vote like urban Yankees (that’s about 80% of it).”

That’s my take on it, where Jews tend to live probably is the most influential factor. I mean is there a group that tends to live in urban areas as much as Jews do who vote any differently? I have tried to find a voting split for urban/rural living Jews before but my search-fu is weak.

Freegards


48 posted on 02/02/2015 9:51:36 AM PST by Ransomed
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

“I guess Jews are liberal for the same reason blacks vote Democrat: Stockholm syndrome.”

One of the most succinct explanations seen!

KYPD


49 posted on 02/02/2015 9:54:13 AM PST by petro45acp (Grubbers "stupid" electorate is starting to look very much like Romney's 47%. Just sayin...)
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To: Jewbacca

Pretty much no religious group is exempt from hateful critique on this forum. I would guess that not just the Jewish people are turned off by conservatives for this reason.


50 posted on 02/02/2015 9:56:01 AM PST by OldNukeDaddy
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To: Ransomed

‘“They are urban Yankees.’

I’ve lived in New England all of my life.

I am not a Yankee-—Jews aren’t Yankees.

A Yankee is a WASP-——going back to the original settlers-—the Cabot and Lodge crowd.

.


51 posted on 02/02/2015 9:57:39 AM PST by Mears (there wasn't much conversation about it.)
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To: Mears

I wouldn’t have used that term, perhaps. But I knew what was meant by it.

Freegards


52 posted on 02/02/2015 10:00:19 AM PST by Ransomed
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To: DesertRhino
But I guess its always more fun to pick on the Jews.

I think you're being a little unfair to this thread.

We could start another thread about why so many Catholics are lefties and favor abortion. Plenty to speculate in that regard for sure. Then we'd be picking on them, I guess.

But this discussion asks a valid question. The majority of voting Jews in the US vote Democrat. Why? Honestly, I stopped trying to understand that years ago. It is what it is, and that is unlikely to change anytime soon, also a fact.

Even supposing there is a lot of "buyer's remorse" regarding Obama among US Jews, I don't see them or any other Dem constituent group having buyer's remorse about the party or liberalism. Obama isn't running in 2016. It will be a different Dem to vote for.

OTOH, I feel a lot of the responsibility for this falls on the corrupt, idiot Republican Party establishment. The GOP has done a piss poor job of selling itself to the Jews. Or anyone else for that matter. What percentage of people that vote Republican are doing so because they literally have no where else to go?? The GOP is NOT conservative, it does not sell a conservative message. It is arguable that it is even offering a viable alternative to the Democrat Socialists. A lot of us are conservative, but the Republican party is not. Conservatives vote Republican out of desperation.

Outside of Reagan, what has been conservative about the Republican party in the last 55 years? And the party did its damnedest to take him down.

Back to the Jews. What has the GOP done to clearly show to US Jews that the Dems are anti-Israel? The Dems are, but the GOP has missed that opportunity completely. Not only has the GOP done a poor job of differentiating itself from the Dems in that regard, it has not been nearly as supportive of Israel as many here seem to believe. Bush's administration was frequently pressuring Israel behind the scenes to give in to the Arabs. And it shoved plenty of money at the so called Palestinian groups that are killing Israelis.

I think the bigger question here is, is the Republican party giving *anyone* a reason to vote GOP in 2016? Given the wholesale screw job the Republican congressional majority has embarked on, the answer to that is a clear no. Conservatives elected Bush & we got 8 years of the Republican version of liberalism. Overall his record reads like a moderate Democrat from the 80s.

If Republicans can't give conservatives a positive reason to vote for them, why would we expect generations of Jews raised as liberals to do so?

53 posted on 02/02/2015 10:37:55 AM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s, you weren't really there....)
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To: MrB

Liberal Jews hate their own nation Israel, and with more venom, than I’ve ever witnessed personally from others (that includes muslims).

Conservative Jews at least “get” that we wacko Evangelical Christians aren’t out to get them.


54 posted on 02/02/2015 10:40:36 AM PST by Roman_War_Criminal
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To: DesertRhino
But I guess its always more fun to pick on the Jews.

Unlike you, I have no sacred cows. And I wasn't picking on Jews, I was countering the statement that only American Jews are liberal.

My apologies if facts disturb you.

55 posted on 02/02/2015 10:42:26 AM PST by gdani (Ebola exposed the U.S. as fearful, easy-to-manipulate weaklings)
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To: Reverend Saltine

Because Judaism is relatively vague on any afterlife, Jews tend to be somewhat attracted to the idea of an idealized, Earthly paradise. In past, there have been some Jewish “Messiahs”, but they are very different in character from the Christian idea of a Messiah.

It the Jewish idea, the person is less important that the Earthly paradise itself, and doesn’t even have to be Jewish. For example, Cyrus the Great, the king of Persia, although not a Hebrew, is referred to as “God’s mashiach” in the Bible, for his decree to rebuild the Jerusalem Temple.

In any event, if anyone comes up with an idealistic philosophy, such as socialism-communism, it will likely attract Jews like moths to a flame.

Even Hitler was so charismatic that some Jews showed interest in following him. In the US, there were huge hopes that JFK would take that role, and with Obama, they were falling all over themselves to enlist their support for him.

It doesn’t matter if whoever it is, is a burning antisemite, many Jews will continue to support them.


56 posted on 02/02/2015 10:50:58 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: HomerBohn

“Chuckie Schumer had a rocket launcher shot up his ass”
That is so daggum FUNNY!


57 posted on 02/02/2015 10:52:08 AM PST by Patriot777 (Imagine....that we could see Obama being hauled out of the White House kicking and screaming?)
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To: Reverend Saltine

They’re mIseryalites.

They just keep screwing themselves over again and again and again and...


58 posted on 02/02/2015 10:52:39 AM PST by polymuser ( Enough is enough)
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To: Mears

Hate to break it to you, but everyone up there is a Yankee to everyone else.


59 posted on 02/02/2015 11:15:19 AM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: Mercat
And some of them hated and still hate FDR because he did nothing to rescue Jews prior to the holocaust.

FDR increased his share of the Jewish vote after refusing the MS St. Louis.

FDR went from winning 82% in 1932, and 85% in 1936, to winning 90% in both 1940 and 1944.

60 posted on 02/02/2015 11:17:43 AM PST by ansel12 (Civilization, Crusade against the Mohammedan Death Cult.)
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