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Uncle Sam Is Coming After Your Savings
Bloomberg | January 23, 2015 | Megan Mcardle

Posted on 01/26/2015 7:35:15 AM PST by reaganaut1

No excerpt allowed from Bloomberg, column here.


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: 529; obamataxes; retirementsavings; roth; rothira; savings; taxes
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I am concerned about future tax increases but agree with her conclusion that it still makes sense to put money in tax-advantaged vehicles like Roth IRAs. Future taxes may be applied only to new contributions, and even if they aren't, the tax treatment may not be worse than if you had used a regular taxable account.

Some Freepers are worried about future confiscation of retirement accounts, but I wonder why it's more difficult for the government to confiscate my regular brokerage account at Fidelity than my IRA accounts there.

1 posted on 01/26/2015 7:35:15 AM PST by reaganaut1
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To: reaganaut1

This really should not be a surprise. The American Welfare State (aka Socialism) is at the point where it can’t easily squeeze more income out of the population so it has to find some other pot of money to feed its social spending. So it will start taking savings. It has happened in a lot of other countries and Obama is trying to make it happen here too. 401Ks will be next.


2 posted on 01/26/2015 7:37:44 AM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: reaganaut1

Not Uncle Sam...Obama


3 posted on 01/26/2015 7:40:09 AM PST by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: reaganaut1

I seldom make any progress arguing about economic policy with Obama supporters, but the one thing I have been able to get a few of them to acknowledge is that when the government deliberately sets out to devalue its currency through “quantitative easing” and deficit spending it is seizing wealth from any citizens who have savings in that currency.


4 posted on 01/26/2015 7:41:07 AM PST by Junk Silver
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

Google “Teresa Ghilarducci”. She’s been out there plugging this idea for at least ten years.


5 posted on 01/26/2015 7:41:55 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

Well, it only puts the inevitable bankruptcy of the welfare system off a few years. Eventually there will be no more real wealth to tap. The music stops and there’ll be a rush for too few chairs.


6 posted on 01/26/2015 7:42:04 AM PST by 556x45
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To: Ouderkirk

Not Uncle Sam...Obama

The demon from hell!


7 posted on 01/26/2015 7:42:35 AM PST by Bitsy
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To: reaganaut1

HA! Outsmarted them and burned through it all. Oh.......


8 posted on 01/26/2015 7:43:13 AM PST by rktman (Served in the Navy to protect the rights of those that want to take some of mine away. Odd, eh?)
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To: reaganaut1

They’ve been talking about this for several years now.


9 posted on 01/26/2015 7:46:08 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: reaganaut1

Leave your “penny jar” on the front porch, it will be picked up by either a representative from ACORN, or the SEIU.

RevRunt Shopton will be auditing the proceeds.


10 posted on 01/26/2015 7:48:16 AM PST by FrankR (They will become our ultimate masters the day we surrender the 2nd Amendment.)
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To: reaganaut1

No gots...............


11 posted on 01/26/2015 7:48:44 AM PST by Red Badger (If you compromise with evil, you just get more evil..........................)
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The gov has got to be lusting for all that Roth IRA money. Taxes are already paid on it, and there's no timetable for having to withdraw it. Could they pull a cute trick like transferring it to government accounts "for our own good"?

I'd love to see how much wealth that's been accumulated is being destroyed because Seniors are having to put their money into annuities and get reverse mortgages because their savings aren't paying any interest.

12 posted on 01/26/2015 7:48:54 AM PST by grania
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Why do you rob banks taxpayers?

Bank Robber: Government official: Because that's where the money is.

13 posted on 01/26/2015 7:49:05 AM PST by lormand (Inside every liberal is a dung slinging monkey)
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This is the act of a gov’t in its last throes before complete currency/economic collapse.

They will confiscate all the savings of all the people as they go down.


14 posted on 01/26/2015 7:49:14 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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Uncle Sam Is Coming After Your Savings

Hahahahaha! Boy, are they gonna be disappointed!

15 posted on 01/26/2015 7:49:23 AM PST by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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I am concerned about future tax increases but agree with her conclusion that it still makes sense to put money in tax-advantaged vehicles like Roth IRAs.

The UniParty is going to gang-bang the Roth IRAs like a two-dollar whore. I've been telling people that for years.

16 posted on 01/26/2015 7:49:31 AM PST by kiryandil (making the jests that some FReepers aren't allowed to...)
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It a matter of time before the Feds begin appropriating 401ks, replacing them with IOUs. I get the feeling they already consider 401ks their money.


17 posted on 01/26/2015 7:51:31 AM PST by skeeter
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To: Junk Silver

“when the government deliberately sets out to devalue its currency through “quantitative easing” and deficit spending it is seizing wealth from any citizens who have savings in that currency.”

Absolutely agree.


18 posted on 01/26/2015 7:53:40 AM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: Jack Hydrazine
They’ve been talking about this for several years now.

That's how FedGov works. It probes the public for reaction. If negative, it floats the same story over and over until the public stops reacting. Then they strike, knowing the public is now desensitized.

19 posted on 01/26/2015 7:54:04 AM PST by Flick Lives ("I can't believe it's not Fascism!")
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Die and most all your remaining money will go to wealth redistribution, not your family.
If you are not in poverty you are also taxed to death.

One big circle of death regarding taxes.


20 posted on 01/26/2015 7:57:27 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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