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Two Brothers Suspected in Killings Were Known to French Intelligence Services
New York Times ^ | JAN. 8, 2015 | ANDREW HIGGINS and MAÏA de la BAUME

Posted on 01/08/2015 9:07:45 AM PST by Second Amendment First

PARIS — When Chérif Kouachi first came to the attention of the French authorities as a possible terrorist a decade ago, he was in his early 20s and, according to testimony during a 2008 Paris trial, had dreamed of attacking Jewish targets in France. Under the influence of a radical Paris preacher, however, he decided that fighting American troops in Iraq presented a better outlet for his commitment to jihad.

On Wednesday, Mr. Kouachi, according to investigators, returned to his original plan of waging holy war in France. Along with his older brother Said and a third French Muslim of North African descent, he was named as one of three who were involved in an assault on a satirical newspaper in Paris that left at least 12 people dead. Continue reading the main story Related Coverage

Manhunt for Charlie Hebdo Attack Suspects ContinuesJAN. 8, 2015 Police officers guarded the street next to the office of the satirical newspaper Charlie Hebdo in Paris on Thursday. Survivors Retrace a Scene of Horror at Charlie HebdoJAN. 8, 2015 video In Paris, Solidarity Against TerrorismJAN. 7, 2015

Chérif and Said, ages 32 and 34, are suspected of being the masked gunmen who entered the offices of the Charlie Hebdo newspaper at 10 Rue Nicolas-Appert in the 11th Arrondissement on Wednesday morning and slaughtered members of the paper’s staff and two police officers with Kalashnikov automatic weapons.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: charliehebdo; charliehebdosuspects; france; francemagazine; jihad; noaccountability; nointegrity; nojustice; novigilance; tewrrorattack

1 posted on 01/08/2015 9:07:45 AM PST by Second Amendment First
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To: Second Amendment First

I read a report that the brothers called on the victims by name then shot them.


2 posted on 01/08/2015 9:08:59 AM PST by stockpirate (The Republican leadership are all fascist/Socialists, just like the fascist democrats.)
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To: Second Amendment First

I hear they call the names out before they shot and kill the editoral staff

BTW I wonder why nobody report it maybe they don’t have Starsky Hutch version of their snitch Huggy bear in France


3 posted on 01/08/2015 9:12:01 AM PST by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media bases belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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4 posted on 01/08/2015 9:17:36 AM PST by Paul46360 (..)
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To: Second Amendment First

Seems like “Police Have No Guns”....and had to run....might not be a real shortcoming.


5 posted on 01/08/2015 9:18:33 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Second Amendment First
All their knowledge and a hand full of loose change will get you a sandwich at the MickyDee’s on the Champs-Élysées.
6 posted on 01/08/2015 9:21:16 AM PST by SpaceBar
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To: stockpirate

Yes, the terrorists had a list of targets, made the victims identify themselves and then shot them. Others were shot simply because they were there, however. And the police were shot because they were police.


7 posted on 01/08/2015 9:26:03 AM PST by livius
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To: Sacajaweau

The French obviously monitor Islamic terrorists the way we do...which is to say, not at all. Put their name on a watchlist and forget about it.


8 posted on 01/08/2015 9:27:14 AM PST by livius
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To: livius

perhaps they thought that the list had some mystical properties.....


9 posted on 01/08/2015 9:28:51 AM PST by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: Second Amendment First

NY Times narrative: Oh well, its a failure in the security apparatus. What can you do? Was it some operating procedure George Bush had the French institute?


10 posted on 01/08/2015 9:29:51 AM PST by PGR88
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To: Second Amendment First

The French actually have an intelligence force? I knew they had forces for diversity, tolerance, social justice, anti hate, anti bullying, gun control...but intelligence?! Must be new. Do the French qualify? Or do they bring in ringers?


11 posted on 01/08/2015 9:31:09 AM PST by albie
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To: livius

Families of the victims ought to bring a class action suit against the authorities for failing in their duty to protect citizens.

Something like THAT might work to keep taxpayer funded officialdom ‘responsible’.

As it is, they just collect a paycheck and write parking tickets.

People in other professions have to meet standards and they have to be efficient or else. Why not the authorities?


12 posted on 01/08/2015 9:31:14 AM PST by SMARTY ("When you blame others, you give up your power to change." Robert Anthony)
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To: livius; All

“Put their name on a watch list and forget about it.”

Or quietly release them from Gitmo...one by one...usually on holiday weekends, or late Friday evenings so no one notices.

@#$%^&*!

We’re so screwed.


13 posted on 01/08/2015 9:42:04 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: Second Amendment First
It wasn't even two years ago that the mad Chechynans, whom the Russians warned the feds about, blew up the Boston Marathon finish line. I have no idea why the extended family wasn't permanently sent back to Chechnya, US citizenship revoked. Now, France has this outrage from Algerians who are known avowed terrorists.

The globalist powers that be are provoking terrorism then using fear of terrorist activity to bring down the middle class in areas that had a large one.

How else do you explain that people not only aren't being sent back to their homelands, they're still arriving from them, and those global entities are still practicing foreign policies that provoke them into acting out their maniac tendencies?

Maybe some good will come it. That would be Europe driving the EU elite crazies out of power and re-establishing national borders.

14 posted on 01/08/2015 9:44:42 AM PST by grania
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To: SMARTY; Diana in Wisconsin

What both of you have said is absolutely the truth. In the US, the Muslim pressure groups are using complaisant judges against us - they file lawsuits or threaten to file them, and then city PD’s have to call off their mosque surveillance and even Internet monitoring (a lot of these jihadis have abundantly announced their intentions on a variety of social media).

I don’t know what it’s going to take to wake us up.


15 posted on 01/08/2015 10:15:08 AM PST by livius
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To: livius
I don’t know what it’s going to take to wake us up.

I can think of a few things, like flying planes into the Twin Towers…But we forget so easily and go right back to sleep.

16 posted on 01/08/2015 11:18:01 AM PST by Veto! (Opinions freely expressed as advice)
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To: Second Amendment First

Just like the two Boston Bombers were known to US, England and Russia’s intelligence agencies. A lot of good those lists are not.


17 posted on 01/08/2015 11:44:34 AM PST by bgill (CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: Second Amendment First

Sons of ø.


18 posted on 01/08/2015 1:14:34 PM PST by onedoug
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