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Bodies and Debris Found in Search for AirAsia Plane, Rescue Teams Say
NYTimes ^ | 12-30-2014 | Thomas Fuller

Posted on 12/30/2014 12:29:43 AM PST by tcrlaf

Indonesian rescue teams said Tuesday that they had found bodies and what appeared to be debris from the AirAsia plane that vanished shortly after taking off from the airport here on Sunday.

Members of search teams told the Indonesian news media that they had spotted what appeared to be suitcases, life vests and aircraft debris. Indonesian television showed a rescuer descending from a helicopter toward a bloated corpse floating in the sea.

The debris was found in the Karimata Strait off the coast of Borneo. Search teams also spotted what appeared to be a larger piece of the fuselage of the plane, which was operated by the Indonesian affiliate of AirAsia.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: airasia; crash; debris; indonesia; qz8501
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To: zipper
That was terrible.

I laughed my arse off.

/johnny

21 posted on 12/30/2014 3:22:44 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: djf

Oooooooooops!

I just noticed that the quote comes from CBS news, not ABC news.

Not like there is much of a difference anyways. But owing to the fact that I am pushing for media responsibility, I have to make my mistake clear.


22 posted on 12/30/2014 3:41:12 AM PST by djf (OK. Well, now, lemme try to make this clear: If you LIKE your lasagna, you can KEEP your lasagna!)
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To: djf

CBS News still hasn’t declared Bush the winner in Ohio, 2004.


23 posted on 12/30/2014 4:02:47 AM PST by OrangeHoof (Every time you say no to a liberal, you make the Baby Barack cry.)
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To: tcrlaf

“Per CNN, Indonesian local TV is showing bodies in the water.”

Per NBC’s Today Show, the relatives of the crash victims saw the bodies on local TV before anyone notified them. Sad.


24 posted on 12/30/2014 4:06:36 AM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: ltc8k6

You are conflating this AD with the Air France icing issue. The Alpha Floor AD is not the same thing.


25 posted on 12/30/2014 4:17:30 AM PST by Tzfat
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To: Rome2000

Yeah right. What makes you the expert to voice such nonsense?


26 posted on 12/30/2014 4:18:13 AM PST by Tzfat
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To: ltc8k6

Wrong again. An inflight breakup could be the result of an incorrect activation of Alpha Floor.


27 posted on 12/30/2014 4:19:47 AM PST by Tzfat
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

That happens a lot in that area. Families often read or see reports of a death before being notified.


28 posted on 12/30/2014 4:24:51 AM PST by Jemian (War Eagle!)
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To: Rome2000

It’s not a case of an unsafe plane. It’s a case of a flight crew flying into some of the most intense thunderstorms in the world and not knowing how to deal with the violent winds inside these thunderstorms.


29 posted on 12/30/2014 4:46:25 AM PST by RayChuang88 (Ferguson: put your hands down and go to work!)
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To: Rome2000

Moral of the story: don’t book a flight on any one of the Asian Airlines. For whatever reason, they are snakebit.


30 posted on 12/30/2014 4:49:54 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: RayChuang88

One does NOT knowingly fly into a thunderstorm period. If you do you will at the very least regret it, and bend something and at the worst you have this thread or one like it.


31 posted on 12/30/2014 4:59:09 AM PST by wita
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To: Tzfat
An inflight breakup could be the result of an incorrect activation of Alpha Floor.

AOA probes are not used during routine flight. They are for used for approaches. We used them for aerobatics and in trainers for spin recovery. Neither of which are done during civilian flights. The most probable cause is turbulence caused by the storm they flew into.

I had read that ATC had denied a request to divert but it is still the PICs responsibility to ensure the safety of their a/c, crew and passengers.

32 posted on 12/30/2014 5:24:26 AM PST by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: RayChuang88
It’s a case of a flight crew flying into some of the most intense thunderstorms in the world and not knowing how to deal with the violent winds inside these thunderstorms.

Back when I was flying with the USMC, a job notice circulated around the squadron. A Midwestern university was seeking "qualified T-28 pilots to fly a T-28 for thunderstorm penetration research". This generated a lot of cynical laughs.

Any "qualified T-28 pilot" knew that the envelope of the T-28 had been reduced from 6g to 4.5g due to the age of the airframes. 4.5g is not a lot, yet in this case, there was the danger of ripping the wings off.

"Airbus A320 Limits
MAX G LOAD
CLEAN = -1 TO +2.5
SLATS AND FLAPS EXTENDED = 0 TO +2.0
SLATS EXTENDED FLAPS RETRACTED = 0 TO +2.0"

Any qualified pilot also called large thunderstorms "Gators" because they can 'chew you up and spit you out'.

Finally, most of us had read the account of Lt Colonel William Rankin, USMC.

The Man Who Rode the Thunder (Hardcover) – June, 1960 by William H. Rankin .

33 posted on 12/30/2014 5:29:08 AM PST by BwanaNdege
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To: tcrlaf

Let the conspiracy theories begin/continue....


34 posted on 12/30/2014 5:30:43 AM PST by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: zipper

If I was the sort of person who is offended by offensive jokes then I would be offended.

But I’m not, so I’m not.

That’s pretty funny.


35 posted on 12/30/2014 5:34:39 AM PST by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: ltc8k6

Hadn’t heard of this. Thanks for posting.


36 posted on 12/30/2014 6:08:03 AM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: Army Air Corps

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3241926/posts?page=4#4


37 posted on 12/30/2014 6:41:37 AM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: BwanaNdege; Chode; SgtBob; B4Ranch

BN- Thank You for Your Service and the info.

WOW! AND YIKES + several other words I best not use here!!!

That is AMAZING LT. Col. Rankin survived all that. Never heard/seen that story before.

LOAD YER DIAPER PING!


38 posted on 12/30/2014 7:20:31 AM PST by mabarker1 (congress, The Opposite of Progress.)
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To: CodeToad

RE: Airbus is heavy into Java. Imagine using Java to control airplanes.

OK, what should they have used instead? ADA?


39 posted on 12/30/2014 7:22:33 AM PST by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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To: SeekAndFind

OK, what should they have used instead? ADA?

_____________

Fortran?

COBOL?

RPGII?

Assembler?


40 posted on 12/30/2014 7:26:53 AM PST by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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