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At last: Ted Cruz wins a 2016 presidential straw poll - Rand Paul in second place
The Washington Times ^ | December 29, 2014 | Jennifer Harper

Posted on 12/29/2014 6:26:57 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

A certain Texas Republican still has plenty of fans. Sen. Ted Cruz has won the Federalist Today Presidential Straw Poll with 26 percent of the nearly one thousand votes cast. The field included 16 potential candidates. “Placing a respectable second and third, Senator Rand Paul (22 percent) and Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker (16 percent) showed that they also have considerable support among the ‘lovers of freedom and anxious for the fray’ Federalist faithful,” report David Corbin and Matt Parks, two analysts for The Federalist - a learned and vibrant online journal.

“The political insider would, undoubtedly, not be impressed. Good luck getting Senators Cruz or Paul elected President of the United States. Any such insurgent’s campaign will be undone by a press that favors Democrats, a bare-knuckles Republican establishment that favors milque-toast candidates, and a bewildered flyover electorate conditioned to favor one flavor-of-the-month insurgent presidential candidate after another, to the detriment of any effective insurgent candidacy,” say Mssrs. Corbin and Parks.

“These same insiders would have no problem envisioning a scenario in which insurgent Democrat Elizabeth Warren, establishment Democrat Hillary Clinton, or establishment Republicans Jeb Bush, Mitt Romney, or Chris Christie win the presidency. Ruling-class smugness aside, these folks have a point: playing by the normal rules, the least likely outcome in 2016 is a victory by a Republican insurgent, even though 40 percent of Americans consistently identify themselves as conservatives (twice the typical number of progressives) But who says we have to play by their rules?” the pair ask....

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Massachusetts; US: Texas; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: 2016election; chrischristie; cromnibus; cruz; davidcorbin; doddfrank; election2016; elizabethwarren; fauxahontas; federalisttoday; jebbush; lieawatha; massachusetts; mattparks; mittromney; polls; randpaul; scottwalker; tedcruz; texas; wisconsin
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

i have before


61 posted on 12/30/2014 10:38:44 AM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: alstewartfan

arnold schwarzenegger chose America and is a (naturalized) US citizen. it doesn’t mean he’s eligible for the office.


62 posted on 12/30/2014 10:46:43 AM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: sten
You pointed out the difference yourself. Arnold had to be naturalized to become a US citizen. Cruz is a natural born citizen.
63 posted on 12/30/2014 10:53:35 AM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

64 posted on 12/30/2014 10:56:25 AM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: sten

Very impressive. Figured it out all by your lonesome?


65 posted on 12/30/2014 10:58:48 AM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

this isn’t new and was common knowledge before people started pushing barry as eligible.

i said the exact same things about barry.

being conservative means being consistent and sticking to the facts even when they don’t play in your favor.


66 posted on 12/30/2014 11:02:47 AM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: sten

Show me where I can find that in the Constitution.

Meanwhile, excuse me while I play through.

Go, Cruz, GO!!


67 posted on 12/30/2014 11:04:50 AM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

same argument applies to bh0bama and was spelled out many moons ago.

http://blockyourid.com/~gbpprorg/obama/NaturalBornCitizenChart2.html

the left will gladly allow tcruz to gain the momentum and then use these arguments to disqualify him just before the primary. this will crush any momentum (like perot pulling out) and almost assure a victory for the next dem.

disqualifying an opponent going into an election is one of barry’s favorite tactics


68 posted on 12/30/2014 11:10:36 AM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: sten

Right.

Go, Ted, GO!!


69 posted on 12/30/2014 11:14:54 AM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: sten

Did Arnold have an American parent?


70 posted on 12/30/2014 12:46:45 PM PST by alstewartfan (But Robin Hood movies Provoke strange emotions That time will not serve to diminish. Al Stewart)
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To: sten

You are saying that the Founders would have ruled a Thomas Jefferson son ineligible if he had been born in France? That would be silly!


71 posted on 12/30/2014 12:52:01 PM PST by alstewartfan (But Robin Hood movies Provoke strange emotions That time will not serve to diminish. Al Stewart)
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To: Jim Robinson

And thanks for.. in 2014.. providing me a voice for these threads:

Houston Protest Against Immigration Reform/Amnesty & Border Surge
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3182138/posts

Free Republic Eyes On The Border: After Action Report
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3186019/posts

We’ll just have to do some more good in 2015.

You betcha, sir!


72 posted on 12/30/2014 2:25:11 PM PST by humblegunner (Why hello, Captain Trips.)
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To: alstewartfan

yes.

they’d also declare all anchor babies ineligible


73 posted on 12/30/2014 3:06:02 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: alstewartfan

no. he also was not born on the soil. making him ineligible.

of course, if all he has to be is a citizen... he’s been a citizen for a number of decades. good enough for you guys... right?


74 posted on 12/30/2014 3:09:26 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: sten

If the Founders meant to exclude American citizen babies due to the country their mothers bore them in, then they weren’t nearly as brilliant as I have always thought. It’s just plain stupid. Bob


75 posted on 12/30/2014 3:25:16 PM PST by alstewartfan (But Robin Hood movies Provoke strange emotions That time will not serve to diminish. Al Stewart)
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To: alstewartfan

your ignorance was not their concern

their concern was to insure anyone assuming the office had no foreign allegiances, at least by birth.

why do you think people are so concerned about being born on US military bases while serving overseas?


76 posted on 12/30/2014 4:11:55 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: humblegunner

Thank uyou very much, humblegunner!


77 posted on 12/30/2014 4:30:21 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: sten
i did it time and again regarding bh0bama and mrubio. tcruz is just the same.

Like I said, you won't because you can't.

You're just blowing smoke now to confuse the issue.
78 posted on 12/30/2014 6:59:02 PM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: sten; alstewartfan
your ignorance was not their concern

their concern was to insure anyone assuming the office had no foreign allegiances, at least by birth.


Then why didn't they write down your opinion of what it means in the Constitution?

Why hasn't the US Congress and/or the Supreme Court put this issue to bed and rule in favor of the opinion you so confidently state as fact?
79 posted on 12/30/2014 7:02:19 PM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie

the USSC has had opinions in which they stated a NBC requires two US citizen parents and being born on the soil. i posted a link that referenced the cases.

as for why the current USSC hasn’t dealt with the issue is that the cases ALL get dismissed before being heard. why? because they would require 0bama to submit his BC as evidence... an act that would result in him committing federal forgery.


80 posted on 12/30/2014 8:17:48 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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