Posted on 12/25/2014 7:35:59 PM PST by Nachum
Adding to the long-running saga of IRS dealings with conservatives, former Senate candidate Christine O’Donnell says the tax agency punished her mistakenly for the second time in five years by imposing an erroneous levy on her bank accounts. Ms. O’Donnell told The Washington Times she only discovered the levy when she couldn’t access her checking account as she was preparing to visit relatives over Thanksgiving. “The day before I was heading out of town for the Thanksgiving weekend, my bank told me the IRS had frozen my accounts. They didn’t give me reason why, just a phone number to call.’”
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Liberals LOVE the Fair Tax- Flat tax, or nothing
You need something far less bureaucrat intensive.
Flat tax or sales tax, but a flat tax will rid us of most of the agency.
Unfortunately (for you), I wrote myself in on that very same platform.
One of the big problems is that short of a Constitutional Amendment there'd be nothing keeping the Congress from having the flat-tax and torturing it into another progressive regulation-snarl… but, if we were to amend the Constitution, here's what I propose.
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The more I think about it the more a national sales tax becomes a bad idea: for one, it will further cement the idea that the federal government can be involved in intrastate commerce; for another, given the ubiquitousness of computational machinery they could make the sales tax of varying rates dependent on who the person is or the income they make... they could store all the pertinent info in a chip and have it embedded into the right hand.
I feel like upsetting some established politicians.
Keep in mind that those who ignore the supreme law of the land now are no more likely to pay attention to one more Amendment (or a dozen) than a mass murderer will be swayed from their crimes by another gun law.
Because the person would probably not survive to see election day.
“Accidentally.”
They'd still have to be ratified by the states; I don't think there's going to be fewer than thirteen states that would be against bad/hijacked amendment proposals.
Keep in mind that those who ignore the supreme law of the land now are no more likely to pay attention to one more Amendment (or a dozen) than a mass murderer will be swayed from their crimes by another gun law.
Well, that's why some of them have mandatory loss of position and retirement benefits for their violation — if that's not enough, then only shooting remains as a tool for reform.
I'd just have to say: if you like your overbearing, constitutionally illegitimate bureaucratic nightmare of an agency, you can keep your overbearing, constitutionally illegitimate bureaucratic nightmare of an agency
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But... but... how will food stamp card fraud perpetuate??? Someone has to pay for their soda and premium meats!
Does anyone really believe that the IRS problem is going to be fixed with ballots???
Since the IRS cannot be trusted to apply the tax laws fairly, the State O'Donnell lives in should illegalize the operation of that agency on its territory. Instead the State tax agency should collect any taxes under the jurisdiction of the corrupt IRS, and remit the monies to the US Treasury on a timeline determined by the State legislature.
Further, any suit at law or enforcement procedure by the IRS should be considered at least an abuse of public office and public documents, if not additionally official oppression. These activities must be done via the State tax agency. Any direct attempt at enforcement by the IRS should be considered a criminal act resulting in incarceration on the one hand, and with penalties paid to the affected parties on the other.
The point is that the IRS is much too far from the people to act in a just fashion. While the State tax agency may be imperfect, it is closer to the people and thus more subject to local humane values.
An article 5 Convention can not change one jot or tittle in the Constitution. It can only propose amendments. They must still be ratified by a 3/4ths majority of States.
All of this "runaway convention" rhetoric is used to scare the uninformed. READ the US Constitution, it is very clear. Amendments were made deliberately hard to get passed. This keeps us from passing laws on emotional knee-jerk reactions to some tragedy, real or imagined.
I hated my history teacher, but I learned all this stuff in Junior High school. I wish she was alive today, I would love to thank her.
Yes, 3/4 of the states must still ratify. I would just say this. There are two methods of creating an amendment, Congress and Convention, basically. None of the 27 amendments began with a convention.
So, in that regard, an Article V convention is not a cut and dried easy-peasy process, IMO.
It appears that we can not get an amendment via congress, so we must either give up, or try the more difficult route, the COS.
The opposition always plays the "runaway convention" card, banking on the ignorance of the public. It makes me wonder why we no longer have the Tulsa Ross type of US History teacher. She was a Junior High history teacher we all hated until we grew up. She was a great lady. If all our youth had teachers like her, politicians would live in fear of us, not the other way around.
It boils down to this: The COS is being considered because the American people have a government of 535 liars who will not make good on the promises they made to get there.
Invariably, all of them (with the exception of those I could count on one hand) lie and stab us in the back. They spend half of their time amassing money (with attached deals to big donors) to get reelected and the other half maneuvering their way through contorted bill amendment rules and cloture votes (and show votes) designed to disguise themselves so they can go home and lie twice a year.
To my mind, a COS won’t fix this. Both they, and the President have shown us all what they think of Constitutional Law.
What we have now is worse than the run up to the Civil War, IMO. I’d much sooner support a convention of states that would enact complete secession.
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