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To: snowtigger

It boils down to this: The COS is being considered because the American people have a government of 535 liars who will not make good on the promises they made to get there.

Invariably, all of them (with the exception of those I could count on one hand) lie and stab us in the back. They spend half of their time amassing money (with attached deals to big donors) to get reelected and the other half maneuvering their way through contorted bill amendment rules and cloture votes (and show votes) designed to disguise themselves so they can go home and lie twice a year.

To my mind, a COS won’t fix this. Both they, and the President have shown us all what they think of Constitutional Law.

What we have now is worse than the run up to the Civil War, IMO. I’d much sooner support a convention of states that would enact complete secession.


40 posted on 12/26/2014 4:09:33 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer
way through contorted bill amendment rules and cloture votes (and show votes) designed to disguise themselves so they can go home and lie twice a year

Another good reason to move them home. Make them work out of glass offices on Main Street, where everyone could look in on them and see what they are doing. Today's communications make it possible. Make lobbyists and other arm twisters come to them in 50 States. No DC nightlife, no fancy parties. If they need to hob-nob, let them do it with their employers, us. Make them look us in the eye and try to screw us.

Now I know this will take an amendment, and it will never come out of DC. It will take something like a Convention.

50 posted on 12/26/2014 6:24:26 AM PST by snowtigger (It ain't what you shoot, it's what you hit.)
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To: Gaffer
It boils down to this: The COS is being considered because the American people have a government of 535 liars who will not make good on the promises they made to get there.

Exactly right.

Invariably, all of them (with the exception of those I could count on one hand) lie and stab us in the back. They spend half of their time amassing money (with attached deals to big donors) to get reelected and the other half maneuvering their way through contorted bill amendment rules and cloture votes (and show votes) designed to disguise themselves so they can go home and lie twice a year.

To my mind, a COS won’t fix this. Both they, and the President have shown us all what they think of Constitutional Law.

It might; I think my Senate Reform Amendment would do a lot to address the issue (esp if the Fiscal Responsibility Amendment were adopted as well).
[See Post 25]

What we have now is worse than the run up to the Civil War, IMO. I’d much sooner support a convention of states that would enact complete secession.

Hm, you're right; there we had a distinct two classes, but the law was clear and applied uniformly. Here we have unjust 'law' being applied at-whim which creates a de facto number of classes — and the ones in authority believe that's the way it's supposed to be.

58 posted on 12/26/2014 8:29:45 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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