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To: Taxman
The Fair tax won't rid us of the IRS, they'll be there in all their glory to cut the prebates and collect the money.

You need something far less bureaucrat intensive.

Flat tax or sales tax, but a flat tax will rid us of most of the agency.

22 posted on 12/25/2014 9:31:20 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
Flat tax or sales tax, but a flat tax will rid us of most of the agency.

No, it won't. It wouldn't change a thing to go to a flat tax.

54 posted on 12/26/2014 7:35:28 AM PST by Principled (Government Slowdown using the budget process!)
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To: Smokin' Joe
Flat tax or sales tax, but a flat tax will rid us of most of the agency.

A flat tax does nothing. The progressive tax rates are simple arithmetic, a 4th 8th grader should be able to do the math [ed. for common core teaching].

All the effort in the tax computation is in determining what is and isn't taxable income. You don't get rid of this until you get rid of the income tax in all its forms.

And since the Fair Tax includes a income related prebate, you don't get rid of the IRS there either.

Even a pure sales tax doesn't get rid of the IRS, as somebody has to collect that Internal Revenue, but it at least cuts it back a bit.

Unfortunately, even without the 1040 income tax forms, we still have all sorts of government benefits with income based rewards and penalties: Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and now ObamaCare. There's a lot of clean up to do.

62 posted on 12/26/2014 9:32:09 AM PST by slowhandluke (It's hard to be cynical enough in this age.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Sorry, but you are badly misinformed.

The flat tax is still an income tax, and there is NO WAY the IRS will go away so long as we have any form of income tax. Most of the tax code verbiage is about defining and debating the meaning of “income.” Ergo, income tax REQUIRES an IRS.

FairTax legislatively ABOLISHES the IRS.

In its place, a Federal agency will be created to monitor the 50 states for compliance with the FairTax.

Here is the FReedom news about FairTAx:

NO INDIVIDUAL AMERICAN WILL EVER BE QUESTIONED OR AUDITED BY AN IRS AGENT!

Individual Americans are no longer in the tax loop, since all tax collections will be made at the retail store level.

Under FairTax, Feds will monitor states’ collection of the tax. Businesses and states will be compensated for collecting the tax.

A whole lot of bureaucrats are going to have to find legitimate work when FairTax is put in place!


64 posted on 12/26/2014 12:02:28 PM PST by Taxman
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