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The only positive I see out of all this is that we have the internet and at least we know this is all happening. Maybe with awareness more people will be able to protect themselves.
1 posted on 12/17/2014 12:58:34 PM PST by GilGil
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To: GilGil

Paul Craig Roberts? Were David Icke, Alex Jones and Ron Paul tied up with other issues?


2 posted on 12/17/2014 1:01:07 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: GilGil

It also seems to me that Putin is the type to back down in any way. This attack on the ruble has a real bad feeling to it.


3 posted on 12/17/2014 1:01:44 PM PST by GilGil
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To: GilGil

It couldn’t simply be that all their currency was backed by their oil,

which is now worth a lot less than it was...

could it?

Does it have to be “an attack”?


5 posted on 12/17/2014 1:04:19 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: GilGil

I don’t see the 0bambi Administration having any hand in banks’ refusal to do business in Rubles.

0bambi loves anything that undermines Western Civilization, just like Putin does. 0bambi hasn’t been effective in any other dealings with Putin, and has never put the screws to him in any meaningful way.

This indicates to me that the banks are doing what’s in their own best interests.

It makes sense to stop doing business with Russia when the price of oil is approaching Russia’s marginal cost of producing oil. That price problem makes Russia virtually bankrupt.

Banks are obligated to their shareholders to avoid doing business with bankrupt entities that will put shareholder capital at risk.

It’s just hard old economics squeezing Puti.

He’ll spin it, of course. But it is Puti’s fault for doing nothing for the Russian economy.


7 posted on 12/17/2014 1:06:48 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Boner and McTurtle funded Amnesty and 0bamaCare)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

PCR alert. Bush bringing down the WTC on 9/11 was not enough. The globalists never stop!


8 posted on 12/17/2014 1:06:52 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: GilGil

Looks like Obama wants to destroy America even faster. Leave it to this[mis]administration to engage in an act of war against a nuclear power.


11 posted on 12/17/2014 1:09:11 PM PST by Republican1795.
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To: GilGil
Maybe Vlad decided he wanted to go out with a bang. So to speak.
12 posted on 12/17/2014 1:11:38 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Any energy source that requires a subsidy is, by definition, "unsustainable.")
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To: GilGil

Stupidity in matters financial = war?

IMHO, Russia worked long and hard to achieve its present financial problems.


16 posted on 12/17/2014 1:21:24 PM PST by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est. Because of what Islam is - and because of what Muslims do.)
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To: GilGil
Unlike the United States, which has a massive trade deficit, and if the currency markets were not rigged, the dollar would be collapsing, the Russian economy has a trade surplus.
Question: What’s the difference between a trade defict and net foreign investment in a country?

Answer: Bupkis. They are the same thing.

The real question is, do you want a country that’s an economic basket case as judged by the fact that no one wants to invest in it, or do you want a country that’s "an economic basket case" because people do choose to invest in it.

19 posted on 12/17/2014 1:34:11 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion ("Liberalism” is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: GilGil

Not sure how this will play out. Putin is unpredictable and Obama is basically a pink poodle in comparison.

20 posted on 12/17/2014 1:36:56 PM PST by Bon mots (American Exceptionalism becomes American Acceptionalism under this regime... :()
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To: GilGil

“Citigroup got put into the recent spending bill, the repeal of this, so they can gamble on derivatives, and taxpayers and depositors are on the hook for the losses.”

If this is true then we are in deeper than I thought. Somebody say it ain’t so.


21 posted on 12/17/2014 1:46:45 PM PST by pleasenotcalifornia
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To: GilGil

Paul Craig Roberts, formerly of the editorial board of the WSJ and assistant secy of the treasury, has morphed into a full-on crank in his old age. He still has a few interesting insights, but largely comes across as a lip-smacking doddering old fool.


25 posted on 12/17/2014 2:00:13 PM PST by bkopto (Free men are not equal. Equal men are not free.)
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To: GilGil

Going by the Title

Act of War...

Does this clown realize what type of fire he is messing with by breaching that idea publicly?

By the mere mention of it, he gives the idea credence on the public stage.

That is a massive mistake. All Putin needs to do is think he is justified by taking military action.

Good grief this is idiotic.


27 posted on 12/17/2014 2:21:57 PM PST by DoughtyOne (The question is Jeb Bush. The answer is NO!)
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To: GilGil

Folks, oil has taken a massive hit. Russia relies on oil exports. Roberts doesn’t seem to grasp the significance of this.

If you as a person or your nation as an entity loses over a third of your income for your leading commodity, you’re going to have problems.

This has caused the Ruble to experience downward pressure.

Further, sanctions of the West over Putin’s invasion of a neighbor nation may not be heaven sent, but they are rational. They are measures short of military action, and get the point across that treachery is not without it’s pitfalls.

Roberts raising the ‘Act of War’ specter here, is unforgivable. Moron...


28 posted on 12/17/2014 2:38:03 PM PST by DoughtyOne (The question is Jeb Bush. The answer is NO!)
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To: GilGil

The US produces more oil. The price of oil comes down. How is that an attack?


29 posted on 12/17/2014 2:54:37 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: GilGil

First RATIONAL assessment that I’ve seen of this insanity.


31 posted on 12/17/2014 4:23:37 PM PST by BobL (I'm so old, I can remember when most hate crimes were committed by whites - Thomas Sowell, 2014)
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To: GilGil

Roberts seems to think this is all planned. Obama wanted a reset. He wanted to be “flexible” with the Russians. Then came Libya, The Arab Spring, Syria, ISIS, Crimea, Ukraine, fracking and Saudi Arabia refusing to play sugar daddy for the rest of OPEC.

Obama’s naivete played a big role in this. The Arab Spring was nonsensical leftwing fantasizing about the 60’s combined with delusions about good Muslims under bad dictators. The bizarre responses to Syria and ISIS were just bizarre.

Then oil crashed and so did the Ruble. Noone needed hedge funds conspiring with the Fed. Crashes happen. They especially happen to nations who are dependent on oil and who are engaged in expensive military actions all over using oil to support their adventurism.

I have no idea how all this will play out. But chaos is a powerful force and there’s a lot of that going around today.


42 posted on 12/18/2014 12:35:39 AM PST by ModelBreaker
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