Posted on 12/06/2014 7:35:41 AM PST by WhiskeyX
A few years ago, a group of Iowa Republicans claimed the legitimate 13th Amendment to the Constitution was missing. The debate is part of a historical detective story with some surprising twists that is still taking place.
(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...
“That missing proposal was called the Titles of Nobility Amendment (or TONA). It sought to ban any American citizen from receiving any foreign title of nobility or receiving foreign favors, such as a pension, without congressional approval. The penalty was loss of citizenship.”
Too bad it didn’t say anything about a current sitting president acting like nobility - to where him and his wife are tried and place in prison!
An interesting historical book about an the enigmatic 25th Amendment is THE WATERGATE AMENDMENT. Amazon.com
We have a lot of things to fix once he’s out office so a president can never use executive orders in the same fashion ever again. Obviously lacking checks and balances.
I remember when this story first came to light 30 years ago, it would have removed citizenship from LAWYERS and disallowed LAWYERS from Government. Not sure where I have the “Original” Story from 30 years ago, but I do have it somewhere, and it was rather detailed as to the Meaning of the Words used at the Time it was proposed.
http://www.libertyforlife.com/constitution/missing_13th_amendment.htm
No one enforces campaign finance laws on the establishment only underfunded challengers.
The original "Titles of Nobility etc" in the Constitution stood.
Frog march in an orange jump suit crushing stones at Leavenworth.
The only good thing is that it can be deleted by the next president. That’s why Obama put the 3 year clause into the immigration “order”....to be able to make it an issue for the 2016 election. e.g.....”We already know that the republicans will delete my executive order to “protect” you from deportation.” He’s so darn clever.
Would that I may live long enough to see that image in real time.
Never mind . No brain function with this head cold.
Jefferson made his own bible and Obama made his own Constitution cut and past works for him.
Below are a couple of excerpts from a Phil Gramm speech made on July Fourth, in the year 2000 at the National Liberal Club located in the City of London. He is talking about a free trade agreement with Great Britain.
“...Let me say that this is not an issue that Americans get up in the morning thinking about. But I would be willing to say that with a weeks work I could offer an amendment in the Senate - and have it adopted - which would give the president the power, the mandate to begin to move towards negotiating a free trade agreement with the UK.”
“... It is not being discussed because Americans don’t know that this is an issue here. But they will.”
And my least favorite passage
...But don’t be confused: we are English.
I always thought that last line was not only strange for a Senator’s 4th of July speech but offensive. It sounded like a reaffirmation of fealty and still does; but at this point, even if the original 13th Amendment was in play, I expect any applicability would be ignored.
Me too.
Your link to the article of how Obama signed an “Executive Order” is a great example of the incompetence or misinformation of the mainstream press.
He did not sign an Executive Order there, and the quote from it about “Our success as a nation” is not from an Executive Order.
It is from a Memorandum he signed.
The link is here.
He signed two memoranda that day.
There is no Executive Order. It is almost always described as that, but it’s not.
Thanks for straightening that out. There’s some kind of big Obama lie in all this. He certainly can’t suspend immigration laws...
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