[grumpygresh]

This should at least flush the Romney 2016 terd down the toilet.

[Attention Surplus Disorder]

This is would be what, the 6-year old newz?

[Sirius Lee]

MSM's "It's Bush's fault." wont fly. Switch to "It's Romney's fault."

At least the latter is truthy.

[Colonel_Flagg]

Actual conservatives knew this during the 2012 primaries. But the GOP-E got their man, the only Republican in the United States who couldn’t run against Obamacare.

[Uncle Miltie]

Thanks to the GOPe we had the only candidate who could not attack Obama at his weakest point (RomneyObamaCare) because Romney was it’s intellectual father.

See tagline.

[Graybeard58]

This was known and discussed here pre primary 2007.

[griswold3]

Why do they think Romney lost?

[Patton@Bastogne]

.

[John S Mosby]

And Romney’s job was to deceive all real Americans, and to LOSE to obamaumao. His job is NOT to run again. You are done, Romney. Get. the. hell. lost.

And whoever in the GOPe engineered this candidacy with Ryan- intended to LOSE also. The Statists in the RINO party.

[colorado tanker]

Well, at one time a lot of conservatives, including Heritage Foundation, supported the individual mandate approach on the ground that it would eliminate free riders.

Only after the debate progressed did a consensus emerge that the mandate is an infringement on individual liberty and free markets and is something we all oppose.

[cripplecreek]

That’s all nice and good but not one single solitary GOP congressman voted for it in the US house or Senate.

[Diogenesis]

Mr. RomneyCARE and the EXEMPT GOP
STILL Support this travesty
that will kill Americans
who survive the EV-68, tuberculosis, Ebola,
and other imported-by-force diseases
the malicious, odious EXEMPT Congress has forced on America.

[bubbacluck]

I thought I remembered reading that Mitt's plan would only work at the state level; that was by design. The problems popped up when they tried to implement Romneycare on a national level. It was never supposed to be anything but a state plan.

I could be wrong, though

[John S Mosby]

Ted Kennedy legacy— the kennedys ugly fingerprints all over the healthcare nightmare.

Kennedy pushed HMOS—— so they would FAIL in care.

Then, Kennedy pushed nationalized single payer healthcare from the government== “free”.

The ACA is designed to FAIL such that we would be forced into single payer. A disaster in every sense brought to you
by venture socialist/marxists.

[iowacornman]

Romney is a statist socialists. He is in the republicrat “establishment” I will stay home again if he is nominated. No difference at all with demorats. But if he gets in he will get slaughtered by Cruz.

[Jack Hydrazine]

But there are still FReepers that’ll vote for him!

[lulu16]

I saw this segment about Gruber this morning on Morning Joe.

Former Gov. of Vermont Howard “Yeah!” Dean said the problem was the law was written by a bunch of elitist who don’t fundamentally understand the American people.

Gruber talking to Roan “Mia” Farrow said that the better way to do it was how they did it in MA and give people money to offset their healthcare, but that was politically unfeasible, and instead it was done through the tax code.

Now here is the spin from the panel:

Mike Barnacle:There was an budget director, Stockman, during the Reagan administration that said during an interview that none of us really understands the federal budget. Implying that Reagan knew nothing about the budget.

Mika said but there was a huge firestorm afterwards.

Dean: This guy was merely a consultant, not the architect, so it is not a bad a reflection of the current administration as that was on Reagan’s. And Stockman had a direct line to the president while Gruber probably did not.

Elise Viebak:(staff writer on the Hill, I think)
Makes this sounds very conspiratol, and that this was done in secret in back rooms. But there was a much more open process than Republicans believe. The parts of the bill was out there and open.

Dean: The Republicans are didn’t want to their input, so they should stop complaining, since they were trying to sabotage it. It’s the law 15 mil on OC. Plenty, Dean did not like but it’s the law and it works. This dustup is beating a dead horse.

http://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/dean—gop-didnt-want-input-on-obamacare-356828739740
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[Ann Archy]

THIS just made Romney SINK!!!!

Killing two birds with ONE STONE PING!!

[Sacajaweau]

Which came first...Hillarycare or Romneycare?”

[COBOL2Java]

No fan of Romney, but RomneyCare was a state initiative. If Taxachusettes wants to do it, fine with me. ObamaCare is a nation-wide initiative. Different thing. The Founding Fathers allowed for states to do these kinds of stupid things. Other states could and would choose to opt out.

RomneyCare, ObamaCare, apples and oranges.

If Obama used RomneyCare as his model, that's bad in and of itself, but they're two different things.