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Forget the Alamo: Why Ted Cruz Needs to Learn How to win a National Election
National Review ^ | 10/27/2014 | Henry Olsen

Posted on 10/27/2014 6:57:57 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind
The article is thought provoking, but offers no reason not to support Ted Cruz. Many, here, are over-reacting.

The article, basically, ignores the concept of actually changing the perspective of voters, not on candidates & parties, but on the issues on which we now are in the minority. Ted Cruz is very skilled at that.

Moreover, a logical consistency--as opposed to temporizing for the sake of popularity--has a great appeal to many. There are more voters out there, to whom integrity to principle appeals as a concept, than there are to whom moderation, for the sake of moderation, appeals. Reagan's biggest advantage over Goldwater had more to do with his ability to smile at the right time, than any departure from their common beliefs.

Of course, the key to any debate--any contest which calls for viewers or listeners to exercise the ability to discriminate intelligently between positions--is in the ability to focus those viewers or listeners on the most appealing concepts. We should never overlook the importance of Perspective & Focus.

I would take the NR article with more than a grain of salt, but certainly not as a reason not to enthusiastically support Ted Cruz.

William Flax

21 posted on 10/27/2014 7:42:25 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: SeekAndFind

Amazing what 30 years of anti God cultural Marxism can do. There is now no national culture or identity. There has been no assimilation. Rather, ideological anti assimilation. Thus we are a divided nation, and the majority have little in common. Membership in interest or grievance groups trumps all.

It is not 1980.

Todays Democrat party is like the Weather Underground in 1980. Indeed, education ideology is informed by Bill Ayers.

Todays GOPe leadership is like the Democrat party of 1980.


22 posted on 10/27/2014 7:44:04 AM PDT by ecomcon
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To: SeekAndFind

National Review and the Weekly Standard staff & management are part of the RINO cocktail circuit in the Beltway. They know j@ck$h1t about what real conservatives think.

This Olsen guy is a Yankee educated at the University of Chicago, that famous bastion of Yankee conservatism/sarc.

His comment “The Alamo defenders did die, and needlessly, as their position was neither strategic nor defensible” shows he obviously didn’t study history. Both the Alamo and Goliad “strategically” delayed Santa Anna’s pursuit of Sam Houston allowing him to pick and choose when he would kick the Mexican general’s derriere.

All that being said, I tend to agree that Cruz’s path to the nomination and victory will be extremely difficult. I voted for him and believe he is 99-44/100’s % right on issues but unfortunately the country is in the toilet.


23 posted on 10/27/2014 7:57:18 AM PDT by secondamendmentkid
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To: SeekAndFind
So they (the enemy within) suggest Cruz needs to compromise some principles in order to act on others, that's not leadership, if he does that what good is he, Cruz doesn't buy power he manufactures it.

Every indication so far is Cruz will not be put in a box, what I find amazing is so many freepers buy this national review crap, don't shoot the messenger they say...I say damn the messenger and damn you too.

Cruz if he enters the race he will win so long as he resists the foolish advise of such as national review, I'm confident he has the wisdom to do so.

24 posted on 10/27/2014 7:59:32 AM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: goldstategop
The point is a valid one - an election is won by assembling a coalition of people to win.

Conservatives have never constituted a majority of Americans and they live in a liberal culture.

To expect the rest of the country to agree with us on every point, is looking to be consigned to eternal opposition in the wilderness.

If we look overly ideological, we will lose. We win when we persuade other Americans there are things we both find necessary to preserve without agreeing with each other on every last item.

That’s the way it is in a free country. The Republican Party is a coalition after all. A purely conservative party has zero chance of winning anywhere in this country.


Something I think that is forgotten is that the Republican base does not like people who flip their positions or who change their positions or principles to try to fir in. When a candidate starts doing that I always wonder when they are lying and when they are telling the truth.

Ronald Reagan didn't abandon his principles; he was a master of picking the important battles. He did not back down on the issues that he saw as the greatest threat to America such as defeating the USSR.

The greatest threat to America is our big government policies such as Obamacare, spending that will destroy our economy, and illegal immigration. There is not point becoming America's enemy by backing policies that will ultimately lead to the destruction of this country to try win an election.

We need Republicans smart enough to pick their battles without backing down. That's why instead of waffling on every issues as it come along; I hope the leadership can begin to decide which battles to fight and actually fight. Like Davy Crockett said “Make sure you are right, then go ahead.”

25 posted on 10/27/2014 8:10:34 AM PDT by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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To: goldstategop

So 0bama was moderate.


26 posted on 10/27/2014 8:13:08 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (I'M WITH CRUZ!)
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To: goldstategop

In your opinion. 0bama was a moderate.

Huh. Coulda sworn he was the most unabashed leftist ever to win the presidency.


27 posted on 10/27/2014 8:14:03 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (I'M WITH CRUZ!)
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To: SeekAndFind

“He claims that beginning with Richard Nixon, every Republican nominee who was elected ran as a “strong conservative,” while every loser ran as a moderate.”

He should clarify that. Every Republican nominee who was elected ran as a “strong conservative”, *and* was believed by the public to actually *be* a strong conservative. Conversely, losers ran as mealy mouthed moderates *pretending* to be conservatives, but who actually were either liberals or “internationalist corporationists”.


28 posted on 10/27/2014 8:22:37 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: Idaho_Cowboy

I’m constantly amused by the number of people who feel the need to proclaim that they are smarter than Ted.

I stand with Ted.


29 posted on 10/27/2014 8:25:02 AM PDT by csivils
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To: Uncle Miltie

“Obama disproved your theory by winning 100% of leftists”

Correction. 102%.


30 posted on 10/27/2014 8:31:27 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: SeekAndFind

Yeh National Review who will likely be touting Jeb Bush as the new Reagan in a few months.

I think Ted Cruz knows exactly what he is doing. I’m not worried about his compass it points due right. He will not fail to draw a sharp contrast between himself and any Dem running in 2016. If you offer the masses a clear choice you will likely do a lot better.


31 posted on 10/27/2014 8:46:45 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: csivils
If you got that impression my post I apologize, If I was criticizing it was supposed to be directed at the spineless leaders of the party who waffle on every issue. I wish they would quite undermining Ted Cruz and the real conservatives on every issue. Ted has gotten more accomplished than I ever have. GO TED!
32 posted on 10/27/2014 8:50:27 AM PDT by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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To: Idaho_Cowboy

I was agreeing with your post. It was a good post, and pointed out how the original article really missed the point.


33 posted on 10/27/2014 9:08:42 AM PDT by csivils
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To: goldstategop

From your viewpoint, the only thing that can save really this country is another civil war, which might be true. Of course, I would rather Cruz win.


34 posted on 10/27/2014 9:22:54 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: SeekAndFind

Okay, fine, whatever..... I’ll continue to stand with Cruz.


35 posted on 10/27/2014 10:37:06 AM PDT by Gator113 ( Ted Cruz, Sarah Palin and Mike Lee speak for me, most everyone else is just noise.)
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To: goldstategop

We are not looking for purity, but we are looking for a party which shares at least 50% or 60% of our views and earns our votes through deeds and not yet another consultant orchestrated pack of lies. Right now we are treated like dirt by the big tent party.

Some things are deal breakers though for me: 2nd Amendment, abortion...


36 posted on 10/27/2014 10:54:53 AM PDT by sarge83
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This shows what a lot of FR conservatives already know, conservative votes are wanted by the GOP but they are certainly not going to or be expected to accept conservatives or their ideas of governance. No conservative candidate will be supported by the other parts of the GOPE even if they manage to some how win the nomination.

What you are saying is the game is already rigged against conservatives in the GOP, right.


37 posted on 10/27/2014 10:57:38 AM PDT by sarge83
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