Posted on 10/24/2014 7:45:22 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Nathan Cirillo and Michael Zehaf-Bibeau.
As I noted yesterday, the moral contrast between these two men the Ottawa terrorist and the guard he shot couldnt be more stark. Cirillo gave his life in the service of country and honor. Zehaf-Bibeau gave his life in the service of tyranny and murder.
All those who have died serving Australia, Canada, the U.K., and the U.S. have made a great sacrifice for those respective democracies. Most Westerners honor them with gratitude. Tragically, however, some Westerners are betraying that honor by joining the Islamic States global movement.
This societal struggle against a very small minority of extremists speaks to a profound philosophical divide.
While the Islamic State claims to represent a new, just, and holy order, its hyper-Salafi jihadist ideology is antithetical to democracy. Where we stand for individual freedom, they stand for totalitarianism. Where we stand for the rule of law, they stand for the tyranny of one psychotic man.
Yet hundreds of Britons, around 100 Canadians, 50 Australians, and 15 Americans are now known to serve the Islamic State. The terror is spreading, and not just in Canada. As events in Australia and Britain attest, Islamic State terrorists in the Mideast and elsewhere are inspiring terrorism from their supporters in the West. Persuading them that serving the Islamic State doesnt require travel to Syria or Iraq, ISIS offers ordained purpose to those Westerners who detest their democratic society. In basic terms, it turns hateful minds toward violent terrorism. And because of the detection challenge that homegrown terrorists pose for intelligence services, they represent an urgent threat to Western nations security. That threat must be met head-on. Treason charges offer one answer.
Of course, it is not a simple answer. While the U.K. is considering treason charges against citizens who join the Islamic State, there is no recent precedent there. The last man convicted of treason in Britain was a Nazi propagandist, Lord Haw-Haw, way back in 1946. Public reaction to new treason trials would obviously be complicated.
However, treason charges here in the United States remain an important legal remedy. Consider Adam Gadahn. Gadahn, a U.S. citizen who joined al-Qaeda in the late 1990s, was charged with treason in 2006. Federal law explains that Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death [or imprisonment] . . . This legal clarity is important. Noting a citizens owing of allegiance, the actus reus (evil action) of levies war or giving aid and comfort to the enemy, U.S. treason law is well suited to the Wests present homegrown-terrorist threat. Other nations should follow this example.
Still, this isnt just about legal remedies. Treason charges also offer a critical political response to this threat.
While some claim that treason laws are authoritarian relics (some, absurdly, argue that treason trials are equivalent to Islamist beheadings), the Islamic States hyper-violent ideology wont be defeated by half-measures. Western countries must clarify that their passports are more than individual documents of travel. They must affirm that passports carry responsibility. At present, the Islamic State (and al-Qaeda) believe that the West is vulnerable to internal destruction by its own citizens. Perpetuating this myth, the terrorists are successfully persuading young men (and some women) to a life that seems to mean something more. These terrorists highlight their international membership to inspire a war that reaches beyond border checkpoints. As evidenced in Canada, the U.K. and Australia, the effort is succeeding.
Treason trials would help us to grapple with this trend. Re-drawing a line of citizen responsibility, we would demonstrate our intolerance for national betrayal and our commitment to American national sovereignty. We would puncture the easy empowerment that the Islamic State is seen to provide.
Even then, this isnt just about law and politics. Its also about honor.
Last week, I visited the graves of two U.S. Army soldiers, Alex Jimenez and Byron Fouty, at Arlington National Cemetery. While serving in Iraq in 2007, these men were captured by the Islamic States predecessor, al-Qaeda in Iraq. Brutally tortured for months, they were then murdered and dumped in a shallow grave. As with Nathan Cirillo, Patrice Vincent, and Lee Rigby, their national service ended in the struggle against a brutal ideology. Honoring them, we must render justice upon their Western opposites: those traitors who support the Islamic States cause of death.
Because we would find ourselves fresh out of; politicians, judges, lawyers, teachers, police...?
While I think people calling treason are wrong 99% (or more) of the time ... in these instances I wonder about that too. Sure fits the bill.
How can a treasonous administration convict those committing treason.
We aren’t enforcing them because plenty of our politicians would be traitors themselves, sacrificing Americans for selfish reasons, such as not missing their party or chance to guest appear at the Oscars in Hollywood, or unwilling to do anything with regards to people who are part of their voting bloc. Then like ebola, we have to invite traitors back home, and don’t do anything to offend them.
We never have. Otherwise, Jane Fonda, Bill Ayers, Bernardine Dohrn, et al would still be in prison
Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.
It just becomes easier to use other laws like giving support to a terrorist organization.
Jane Fonda never went to prison. She did win an Oscar though and still making movies...
Because if we did there would be huge portions of the government which would be culpable — from Congress to the White House and heads of agencies to the "grunts" in the TSA and BATFE.
I would prefer a declaration of war (or other congressional action) before treason laws are applied. In cases like the ones discussed here, another way must be found.
"Treason trials would help us to grapple with this trend. Re-drawing a line of citizen responsibility,...-SeekAndFind
"citizen responsibility"...do they teach that anymore? Increased MC/PC redirection by progressives in this nation are tirelessly working to redefine who qualifies as a 'citizen' and does so without the requisite recognition of 'responsibility' or 'consequence'.
The problem is who gets to define what a “traitor” is.
There are plenty out there who would consider Tea Partiers as “traitors.”
Ayers should have been executed. he is a murderer.
or dead...................
Doesn’t the Logan Act cover this type of activity?9
That begs the question as to why we don’t declare war anymore.
We have not declared war on anyone since World War 2.
So, officially we have not fought any wars, so legally, there would be issues without a legal declaration of war.
I have to refresh my memory of John Walker Lindh. He’s in prison now for fighting with the Taliban. But don’t know what the charges against him were. Since we weren’t officially legally at war in Afghanistan, I’m thinking the charges against him would not have been treason.
Cowards. Simply the Nations leaders are full of cowards. Weak sissified men.
Apparently we’ve convicted no one of treason since Tokyo Rose in 1949.
This sort of confusion is understandable and unavoidable unless we get our illusions right in this brave, new, hopey changey obamanation.
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