Missouri Cop Shooting Sparks New Protests

Skynews ^ | October 9, 2014 | Sky News US Team

[Former Proud Canadian]

A white off-duty police officer has shot dead a black teenager in a St Louis suburb, sparking a night of protests

[boycott]

Problem is... they destroy their own cities, then move on to less-destroyed ground and destroy that as well.

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Have they ever moved into an area and made it better? Any where in the world?

They might should take a closer look in the mirror to see if they can find the real problem. It ain’t whitey.

[Molon Labbie]

Uh, yeah, I’ll have the stovepipe on rye...

Listen, I am not kidding, I have taken 9milly PB guns off of some who have had 9mm tokarev in the mag.

And they wonder why they jam..

[petercooper]

Make sure that it is bad enough that it sucks for them, but not so bad that they move somewhere else.

Yes. At the local playground, take out the new jungle gym and swings and put in an old rusty swingset, and a rotting splintering wood seesaw. You know the kinds we used to get cut on, and splinters from.

[Mouton]

Why 17 times? Because that is all the bullets he had IMO. Good for him...too bad he was not carrying an extended 33 rounder.

[arthurus]

"An investigation will decide if the officer's behaviour was appropriate," he said.

The Teen fired three shots at the officer. It were only appropriate if the officer had been hit?

[WilliamofCarmichael]

There are facts and figures covering aspects of "racial profiling" pretty much proving it's all Obama-Holder Dept. of Just Us and Our People (the race grievance industry) bull shit.

Police Behavior during Traffic and Street Stops, 2011

Traffic stops

About 71% of persons involved in streets stops thought the police behaved properly, compared to 88% of drivers pulled over in traffic stops

In 2011, less than 1% of the 241.4 million U.S. residents age 16 or older were involved in a street stop during their most recent contact with police (table 1; appendix table 2). A greater percentage of males (1%) than females (less than 1%) were involved in street stops during 2011. Persons ages 16 to 24 were more likely than persons age 35 or older to be involved in street stops. While no differences were observed in the percentage of non-Hispanic white, non-Hispanic black, and Hispanic populations age 16 or older involved in a street stop, among those who were stopped, a smaller percentage of blacks (38%) than Hispanics (63%) or whites (78%) felt the police behaved properly during the stop.

Traffic stops were a more common form of police contact than street stops in 2011. About 10% of the 212.3 million U.S. drivers age 16 or older were stopped while operating a motor vehicle during their most recent contact with police.1 As with street stops, a greater percentage of male drivers (12%) than female drivers (8%) were pulled over in traffic stops. Across age groups, the highest percentage of stopped drivers was among drivers ages 18 to 24 (18%). A higher percentage of black drivers (13%) than white (10%) and Hispanic (10%) drivers age 16 or older were pulled over in a traffic stop during their most recent contact with police.

A higher percentage of drivers in traffic stops (88%) than persons involved in street stops (71%) believed the police behaved properly during the stop. White drivers pulled over by police (89%) were more likely than black drivers (83%) to think that the police behaved properly, while no difference was observed between the percentages of stopped white drivers and Hispanic drivers who thought that the police behaved properly. There was also no statistical difference in the percentages of black and Hispanic stopped drivers who believed the police behaved properly.

Table 1 Involuntary contact with police among persons age 16 or older, by demographic characteristics and type of contact, 2011

	Street stopsa							Traffic stopsb
		Percent of stopped persons							Percent of stopped drivers
Demographic characteristics	Percent of all persons	Total	Police behaved properlyd					Percent of all driversc	Total	Police behaved properlyd
Total	0.6%	100%	70.7%					10.2%	100%	88.2%
Sex
Male	0.8%	67.5%	69.8%					11.9%	58.8%	86.9%
Female	0.4	32.5	72.7					8.4	41.2	89.9
Race/Hispanic origin
Whitee	0.6%	65.2%	77.6%					9.8%	69.3%	89.4%
Black/African Americane	0.6	12.4	37.7 !					12.8	12.6	82.7
Hispanic/Latino	0.7	15.3	62.9					10.4	12.2	86.5
American Indian/Alaska Nativee	0.5 !	0.6 !	100 !					15.0	0.6	74.2
Asian/Native Hawaiian/other Pacific Islandere	0.4 !	3.6 !	85.0 !					9.4	4.0	89.5
Two or more racese	1.8 !	3.1 !	76.6 !					13.4	1.3	94.8
Age
16–17	1.5%	8.5%	67.4%					9.0%	1.8%	92.3%
18–24	1.6	31.7	72.1					17.8	19.5	85.1
25–34	0.9	27.1	64.4					12.7	22.4	88.1
35–44	0.4	10.6	81.6					11.3	19.8	87.9
45–54	0.4	10.9	79.7					9.4	17.9	88.7
55–64	0.2	5.5	62.2 !					7.1	11.4	89.7
65 or older	0.2	5.7	68.8 !					4.8	7.2	92.3

Note: See appendix table 2 for estimates of the U.S. population and driving population age 16 or older and appendix table 3 for standard errors.

• ! Interpret with caution. Estimate based on 10 or fewer sample cases or the coefficient of variation is greater than 50%.
• a Includes persons stopped by police during the past 12 months for whom the most recent contact involved being stopped by police on the street or in public, but not in a moving motor vehicle.
• b Includes persons stopped by police during the past 12 months for whom the most recent contact was as a driver in a traffic stop.
• c Percents based on the driving population age 16 or older, which includes PPCS respondents who reported driving a few times a year or more or were the driver in a traffic stop.
• d Denominator includes approximately 2% of respondents who did not know or did not report whether police behaved properly.
• e Excludes persons of Hispanic or Latino origin.

Source: Bureau of Justice Statistics, National Crime Victimization Survey, Police-Public Contact Survey, 2011.

[deport]

Shaw Mo, 11 miles south of Ferguson, Mo. Cop working off duty for
a private firm. Deceased fired 3 rounds, cop fired 17.

[FreeAtlanta]

Locust

[MrB]

I doubt that they’ve really examined it very well in their minds, considering logical thinking is not emphasized in their culture -

what are the cops supposed to do?
Just let the criminals steal, kill and destroy things without acting to stop them?

I suppose so.

[CrazyIvan]

 ”All he had was a sandwich”

BLT, RIP, BFD.

[FreeAtlanta]

Man that puts more round accurately on target wins.

[SWAMPSNIPER]

[arthurus]

40+ years ago I lived in a neighborhood in St. Petersburg that had originally been white owner-occupied houses. It had become white rental houses and had declined considerably. Then black families over a few years bought most of the houses and he neighborhood improved a lot. That is when my wife and I bought a house there. The only other white person was an ancient man who had lived in his house since before the War. He told me the history of the neighborhood since the late thirties. My wife and I lived there for a year and a half when a group of houses was built very quickly in the vacant block across the street from my house. The government at some level moved in people from Tampa who were all drug dealers to the new crappy subsidized housing. The neighborhood went to hell fast. My black neighbors sold out and left as fast as they could.My wife and I went to Michigan and sold the house.

I have been back in recent years to look at the old neighborhood. The subsidized houses are gone- I am sure they fell apart pretty fasti and there is a store there and a bicycle shop. The whole neighborhood is now dominated by a huge Australian pine I had planted in the back yard that is visible from many blocks away. The houses are all rental now and the neighborhood all black. The lawns are neat, though, and the houses painted.

[WilliamofCarmichael]

RE: facts and figures covering aspects of "racial profiling" pretty much proving it's all Obama-Holder Dept. of Just Us and Our People (the race grievance industry) bull shit.

Driving while black b.s. is all based upon a measily two percent? See Percent of stopped drivers, Police did not give reason for the stop below.

Police Behavior during Traffic and Street Stops, 2011

Traffic stops

"Regardless of the reason for the traffic stop, black (67%) and Hispanic (74%) drivers were less likely than white drivers (84%) to believe the reason for the stop was legitimate.

"In 2011, a greater percentage of white drivers (84%) than Hispanic (74%) or black drivers (67%) who were stopped by police believed they were pulled over for a legitimate reason (table 2). Across all races and Hispanic origin, drivers stopped for speeding were among the most likely to perceive that the reason for the traffic stop was legitimate (90% of white, 83% of Hispanic, and 73% of black drivers). In general, drivers who were pulled over and not given a reason for the traffic stop were the least likely to think the traffic stop was legitimate. For example, 51% of white drivers who were stopped without the police giving a reason believed the stop was legitimate, whereas 84% who were given a reason believed that the stop was legitimate.

"Among other reasons for traffic stops that were associated with comparatively lower perceptions that the stop was legitimate, less than 70% of white (69%), black (69%), and Hispanic (64%) drivers who were pulled over for a stop light or stop sign violation believed the police had a legitimate reason for stopping them. Less than 70% of black drivers stopped due to a vehicle defect (69%), a seatbelt or cell phone violation (64%), or an illegal turn or lane change violation (65%) thought the police had a legitimate reason for stopping them."

Table 2 Perception that reason for traffic stop was legitimate among drivers age 16 or older, by race or Hispanic origin of driver and reason for stop, 2011

Percent of stopped drivers
Reason for traffic stop	All	White a	Black/African American a	Hispanic/Latino	Other a,b
Any reasons	100%	100%	100%	100%	100%
Police gave reason for the stop
Speeding	46.5	50.1	37.7	39.2	37.3
Vehicle defect	14.1	12.7	19.0	16.5	14.6
Record check	9.7	9.0	14.0	9.7	9.9
Roadside sobriety check	1.3	1.6	0.4 !	1.0 !	1.0 !
Seatbelt or cell phone violation	6.6	6.6	6.5	6.5	7.4
Illegal turn or lane change	7.0	6.6	7.0	7.1	10.8
Stop sign/light violation	6.7	6.1	5.5	9.9	9.4
Other reasonc	5.1	4.7	5.3	6.8	5.2
Police did not give reason for the stop	3.1	2.6	4.7	3.3	4.2 !
Percent reporting reason for stop was legitimate d
Reason for traffic stop	All	White a	Black/African American a	Hispanic/Latino	Other a,b
Any reasons	80%	83.6%	67.5%	73.6%	78.4%
Police gave reason for the stop
Speeding	87.1	89.6	72.8	83.1	87.3
Vehicle defect	81.2	86.4	69.0	74.4	79.3
Record check	80.0	80.9	83.0	70.7	81.2
Roadside sobriety check	79.4	86.0	-- !	56.6 !	68.1 !
Seatbelt or cell phone violation	79.7	84.0	63.8	77.3	69.0 !
Illegal turn or lane change	73.0	75.4	65.0	72.6	67.1
Stop sign/light violation	68.4	68.8	69.2	63.6	74.6
Other reason c	59.1	65.2	21.6 !	61.9	67.8 !
Police did not give reason for the stop	44.6	51.0	36.6 !	18.3 !	59.8 !

Note: Based on persons for whom the most recent contact with police was as a driver in a traffic stop. See appendix table 4 for standard errors.

! Interpret with caution. Estimate based on 10 or fewer cases or the coefficient of variation is greater than 50%. -- Less than 0.05%.

• a Excludes persons of Hispanic or Latino origin.
• b Includes persons identifying as American Indian, Alaska Native, Asian, Native Hawaiian, or other Pacific Islander, and persons of two or more races.
• c Denominator includes approximately 3% of white, 6% of black, 3% of Hispanic, and 4% of other race drivers who did not know or did not report whether the reason for the stop was legitimate.
• d Includes reasons such as reckless driving, littering, failure to yield, following too closely, obstructed license plate, and noise violations.

[moovova]

“Hours after the shooting, a crowd gathered at the scene in Shaw, 11 miles (18km) south of Ferguson.”

Protestors from Ferguson migrated over to Shaw.

It helped that both towns were on the bus line.

[tacticalogic]

Are those DOJ “protest marshalls” still in the area, advising and organizing the protestors?

[Cen-Tejas]

In one of my all time favorite shows, Gunsmoke, James Arness always shoots second in the opening street gunfight. But, the bad guy always goes down.

This is one reason why the Marines have always been the most effective ground troops we have as they are taught to AIM and then shoot. Not, shoot and Not AIM.

“Mr Dillon” always hit what he was shooting at!!!

[MNDude]

Those darn American Indian/Alaska Natives have it made!

[Dilbert San Diego]

Just waiting for the media and liberals and Sharpton/Jackson to make this a racial cause celebre.

It seems we are at a point at which any altercation between white and black, the white person is somehow to blame. White law enforcement officers are apparently not allowed to use appropriate force against a black offender, even if the black offender is shooting, using deadly force against the officer.

Question — would this be national news if the cop were white and the perpetrator were white?

What if the perpetrator and policeman were both black?

What if the cop were black and the perpetrator were white?

[showme_the_Glory]

Problem is... they destroy their own cities, then move on to less-destroyed ground and destroy that as well.

.....and they don't want to work at the kind of jobs that pay good money to fix it back up. Destroy the Destroyers!