Does military discipline include following an order to tell less than the whole truth (or to lie) under oath?
Just wondering, not implying anything.
The problem here is that these “officers” are now BARRY’S “officers”. I doubt they have much credibility.
Another LIE.
Apparently the truth told over a year ago was a LIE?
Which is it?
When does the revolution start?
Funny, the story was that there were no assets nearby.
Turns out there were.
Then we were told the assets were told not to intervene.
So somebody is lying.
And I’d say it’s the guys testifying that there was no stand down order.
‘Evacuation’? Pray tell, who was supporting an evacuation during the attack?
Has anyone asked about cross-border authority yet?
Are these officers saying that they made the decision to not send troops to protect American diplomatic personnel? If so, prepare for their courts martial.
Some of Obama’s hand-picked officers no doubt. Replacements for the old-school ones who wouldn’t play ball.
Nice touch: "What did you want us to do, send in an injured soldier??"
This is nothing more than the WH trying to undermine Trey Gowdy.
That is double talk testimony from Lt. Col. S.E. Gibson if AP quoted him correct. To paraphrase Lt. Col. S.E. Gibson’s testimony stating there was no stand down order but rather a remain in place order initiated. What is the difference between a stand down order and a remain in place order, Lt. Col. S.E. Gibson? Both orders require the same action or rather no action be taken which equals ‘stand down’
How would these low level officers and enlisted even know of the existence of a stand-down order? They were ordered to prepare to protect and care for the evacuees from Benghazi.
If someone was to interview them and ask “Were you aware of any stand-down order?” and they would truthfully say “No”. In which case the AP could report that they said there was no stand-down order, not “they were unaware of one” but there “wasn’t one”.
Isn’t the art of propaganda grand?
Well Klapper and Cassata can go and shove their opinion on
this. When a reporter walked in and found Stevens personal
appointment book because he was able to get to the scene
before our military got there tells me that not only was
a stand down order given but a stay away order also.
Maybe it wasn’t verbally stated “stand down” but something
amounting to it was given. They were told not to interfere
with the terrorist attack and the people who did and died
weren’t ordered to do so.
This is nothing but spin.
Only the POTUS has the authority to issue a CBA!
0bama was notified immediately and automatically when the Benghazi consulate triggered the "Imminent Danger Notification System" alert. He did nothing.
Judge Jeanine Investigates Benghazi Gate Part 4 - 10/20/2012 video 6:53
Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer (U.S. Army ret.), former CIA Station Chief Gary Berntsen and former CIA operative Mike Baker
Howie Carr interview with Col. Hunt On The Newest Libyan Revelations audio 28:37
There are three scandals here...
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Denial of requests for security were a dereliction of duty. The lies and misdirection about the "video" after the attack were fraud and malfeasance under the color of authority. The inaction during the attack was something more than that.
The failure to act during the attack is the direct equivalent of desertion IMO.
ONE man had the authority to act that night.
ONE man deserted his post!
EXCLUSIVE: CIA operators were denied request for help during Benghazi attack, sources say
0bama abandoned his post. 0bama Is A Deserter!
0bama did nothing!!!
Hicks: Special Forces ‘Furious’ Upon Being Told to Stand Down video at link"According to Benghazi whistleblower Gregory Hicks, the deputy chief of mission in Libya, special forces were “furious” when they were told to stand down during the Benghazi attack. “I will quote Lieutenant Colonel Gibson,” Hicks told the House Oversight Committee in hearings today, “He said, ‘This is the first time in my career that a diplomat has more balls than somebody in the military.’”"
This might be considered a stand down too.
Whistle-blower: Botched talking points hurt FBI probe of Benghazi attack"Another whistle-blower questioned Wednesday why more military assets were not deployed sooner during the Benghazi terror attack. Mark Thompson, a former Marine and official with the State Department's Counterterrorism Bureau, said he was rebuffed by the White House when he asked for a specialized team -- known as a FEST team -- to be deployed. This is a unit made of special operations personnel, diplomatic security, intelligence and other officers."
Here is a third way a "stand down" policy was implemented IMO.
Blow-by-Blow: How Obama & Hillary Left Americans to Die"Nordstrom further testified in writing that Hillary Clinton waived security requirements for the Benghazi consulate despite high and critical threat levels in the six categories of security standards established under the Overseas Security Policy Board and the Secure Embassy Construction and Counterterrorism Act of 1999. The waiver can only be authorized by the Secretary of State, who cannot delegate that responsibility to someone else. ”If the Secretary of State did not waive these requirements, who did so by ordering occupancy of the facilities in Benghazi and Tripoli?” Nordstrom wrote."
Isn’t this like focusing on the behavior of ants under the decision makers’ feet?
Four people wouldn’t have been enough to defend the Benghazi location.
So these 4 were told to remain in place / stand down and maybe they wouldn’t have been much help.
Why were there no planes sent from wherever we were in the Mediterranean area? Even if they hadn’t been able to do anything, why weren’t they scrambled? The fight went on all night.
“The senior military officer who issued the instruction to “remain in place” and the detachment leader who received it said it was the right decision and has been widely mischaracterized. The order was to remain in Tripoli and protect some three dozen embassy personnel rather than fly to Benghazi some 600 miles away after all Americans there would have been evacuated. And the medic is credited with saving the life of an evacuee from the attacks.”
This is all Clintonian wordplay and misdirection. I presume the US military has air, ground, and sea Special Forces teams positioned near hot spots and ready for emergency combat operations, especially on anniversaries of 9-11. The four trainers in Tripoli were brave men who wanted to help because the command structure wasn’t. They are irrelevant to any stand down order that actually matters here. The Obama administration waited until the attacks were over, so that it was too late to do anything. I have to wonder if the administration was taken by surprise by the second attack only.
Here are questions the “investigation” and reporters are hiding while they debate “stand down” orders:
1) WAS THERE A “STAND UP” ORDER?
2) WHO GAVE IT?
3) IF NOT, WHY?
4) WERE THERE PRE-ESTABLISHED ORDERS FOR RESPONSE TO THIS SORT OF INCIDENT?
5) WHAT WERE THEY?
6) WERE THEY FOLLOWED?
7) IF NOT, WHY?
I am fed up with incompetent “investigators” and spin-doctors.
If true, that’s even worse..
Obama purged the wrong officers.. or did he?
First off, there is no such ting as a “stand down order”.
Second, there is ONLY a cross border authority order, and only the President can give it. Without such as order the troops must continue to stand down.
Obama never gave the CBA.