Posted on 06/16/2014 9:43:19 AM PDT by MosesKnows
I believed there was no sure way to eliminate an embarrassing Email or Internet posting.
However, according to some recent news reports the IRS has discovered a way to eliminate select Emails.
Never send it.
Lois Lerner has the patent for that App................
The IRS is wondering the same thing.
Send it to Lois Lerner and it will immediately be deleted forever.
Step 1: Have to archiving system in place, which would get you fined in the private sector.
Step 2: Take the computer that sent the e-mails, and throw it into the fires of Mordor.
Step 3: Take the email server, and also throw in said fires of Mordor.
Step 4: Drive a van around the country, collecting all the computers that these emails were sent to, and the email servers at each establishment - and “Mordor” them.
Step 5: If any of the receiving computers were on gmail accounts, etc, send Google a letter telling them to “mordor” all their stuff.
Step 6: Write similar letter to NSA.
Step 7: Lie with a straight face.
Never really permanently deleted. If you use an ISP (comcast) or cloud (yahoo) they could retrieve them in the case of a criminal investigation or something. But would never retrieve/restore if you asked. In case of a corporate environment (exchange server) they are backed up and sent offsite. So if you delete it locally, there is a copy saved somewhere. Plus the recipient of your email would have a copy on their client.
It doesn’t take a professional ... you delete it on the sending end, and also delete it on the receiving end. Those are the two locations where it’s going to be.
In MS Outlook,
Go to your “Sent” e-mail and open the specific e-mail message,
Then:
Select “File”
Then Select “Resend or Recall”
Then select “Recall this Message”
Note: This only works if they haven’t already opened the message.
Note 2: This isn’t a complete erase, but usually good enough.
....keep asking all over the internet....and hint it’s worth money....sooner or later Odungo’s goons will steal it
If the email is on a server that’s backed up, there will likely always be a copy of it, ‘somewhere’.
If the email has been downloaded onto your computer and saved in a ‘Personal File/Folder’, it would take a catastrophic failure of the hard drive to eliminate it, and I mean CATASTROPHIC. We’re talking, physically destroyed. I suppose it’s also possible to do a thorough ‘wipe’ of the drive.
Even in the latter case, if the message was on the server before being downloaded to the computer, chances are it was backed up and is being stored within the backup.
If the message is not received by the target server due to it being down, or an invalid recipient, a return code is generated that makes a log entry at the sending server.
All of this happens regardless of what either the sending user or the receiving user does (except for the act of sending it in the first place).
Depending on the mail application, that email may be stored as Sent within the sender's mailbox. It may be deleted from there by the user. With certain systems - Exchange, for one - that still does not delete the email, it only moves it to a still-recoverable area termed the Dumpster for a period of time that is configurable by the system administrator. Not until it is scrubbed from there is it actually gone.
In the meantime, the database files storing all the above have, in every professionally-administered email operation, been backed up to disk in another location, either outside the mail store, or on another local server, or on a server at a remote location. Depending on the retention requirements of the sending organization, that may be sent to tape for a specified period of time as well, from which it may be recovered.
In short, even a small organization expends a good deal of resources ensuring that mail is not lost. If it outsources the job to a vendor, the vendor does. What the IRS claims to have happened simply doesn't in any competently-managed email system these days.
There are exceptions - under an old protocol named POP the email is scrubbed from the server once it hits the workstation mailbox, but even here the log entries persist, and whatever provisions the sending organization has made for retention persist as well.
Bottom line - the IRS is lying. If it's really gone it's because somebody scrubbed the sending workstations, the sending and receiving servers, and all the log entries in both places. That requires extraordinary access and effort. It wouldn't be accidental.
Well we know billions of $$$ and 10’s 1’000s of Federal workers wont & can’t do it.
I think a couple kids from the geek squad could have those e-mails within the week.
No problem…
First of all, there is absolutely no way to loose govt. Emails, it is literally impossible.
However, if you repeat the lie, that they are lost, enough times, the Media including fox news will stupidly repeat it to the point that the stupid people will go along with the lie. Then after enough time goes by, they will tell the stupid people “ this issue was resolved a long time ago … dude”
Wala~ what E-mails...
We need to get her Gmail and hotmail email too. We may have the hay bale to break this camel’s back.
Funny you should mention catastrophic failure!
After the hard drive predictive failure analysis.
The drive was deemed to fail and shredded. The shreds were mixed with many others and sent to a secure recycling facility.
A virus had also damaged all the other drives where the emails had been!
You will need to contact Merlin the Magician or other specialists in the occult. Until then, your email will continue to exist in some realm of cyberspace.
And the on the server the client’s email went through.
This is a horribly easy lie to bust.
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