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While I completely understand Ms. Lewis' thoughts on Cali and would not live there either, there are those that for some strange set of circumstances, be it financial, family or whatever are there to stay. I even have an old work buddy that just retired and is moving to San Diego from AZ. WHAT? I keep asking him, "Are you sure?" Family ties for he and his wife and a nice sail boat docked there. I don't get it. Heck we're close enough to the border that sometimes we can feel this weird vibe in the distance. Big cities, no thanks. But as everything else in life, it everybody's own choice. Choose wisely my FRiend. :>}
1 posted on 06/15/2014 5:25:25 AM PDT by rktman
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I grew up in LA and went to UC Berkeley in the early 70s. I left in 1979 and never went back except to visit family. Now I live in CT, almost as bad but not quite. My family is pushing me to move back, but I really am having trouble with it, as much as I love them. Just visiting there and being forbidden to use plastic bags at the stores pisses me off. The smug self-righteousness of the left permeates everything. I don’t think I could take it.


2 posted on 06/15/2014 5:38:45 AM PDT by madmominct
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Please remember why you left. Don’t Californicate your new home.

They left because they screwed everybody they could and had nobody left to exploit.

Once they make their money and retire with those generous public pensions they head for greener pastures in Oregon, Nevada, Arizona, Idaho -- and then turn those states into mini-Californias.

4 posted on 06/15/2014 5:51:31 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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I visited California in ‘12 and traveled all over.

The state is overpopulated.


5 posted on 06/15/2014 5:54:42 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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We left San Diego for Scottsdale, AZ almost 20 years ago. We go back every year or two to visit family, but other than the ocean, I don’t miss California one bit.


9 posted on 06/15/2014 6:08:58 AM PDT by Prince of Space (Be Breitbart, baby. LIFB.)
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Well… Californication is going on in lots of other places. Take for example Ontario, Canada which is a good comparison for California due to its significant size (population of 14,000,000 which would make it the 5th largest state if in the U.S.). The provincial election was held this past week with a rather unbelievable result. Everyone acknowledged that the Liberal government in power were socialist thugs and involved in so much corruption that it would be a cinch to replace them with a conservative government, right? Well, not only was the Liberal minority government not defeated, when the smoke cleared on Thursday, they now hold the majority in the legislature. How did they do it? Think about de Tocqueville famous quote of “The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money.” Up until the point when they can no longer ‘endure’, a lot of spending of other people’s money goes on. What has happened in Ontario is almost the same as California… Between the union controlled public service, businesses that depend on government programs and initiatives for their revenues and a whole host of others who depend on the government for their very existence in some way, shape or form, there’s no point in even suggesting that spending should be reined in….it won’t happen due to the vested interest of what is now the majority (greatly encouraged in that process by the Liberals since it is a perfect fit for their DNA which naturally repulses the concept of living within one’s means). Ontario’s election wasn’t about choosing which party should be in power….. it was a referendum on fiscal conservatism itself and guess what was defeated?

Like California, Ontario has managed to find itself well beyond the tipping point. The possibility that public service unions would get so big that they (along with others who have a vested interested in a particular party winning) would be the deciding factor as to who would be in power was always out there……Everyone should be dead against all public service unions for this very reason but the argument is typically always poo pooed on the grounds that the unions weren’t quite large enough to influence an election and besides, “they would have a breakdown of voting preferences that would be reflective of the general population”. Ya right..… Can you believe that the Ontario Provincial Police Association (union)even ran their own commercials that essentially laid out a threat to Ontarians that if they voted for the Conservative (Alinsky tactic Rule 12), we would be virtually guaranteed labour strife? It is mindboggling that the citizenry wasn’t up in arms about this…. oh wait, it was the POLICE who did it. If the idea of being held hostage by the police doesn’t strike fear into every citizen of Ontario, I don’t know what will. I was chatting with a young nurse just before the election and she said that she and all the nurses that she knows have been told “if you vote Conservative you will lose your job.” Well….it worked and she voted Liberal. Somehow these types of threats and the general demonization that went on against the Conservatives by all these groups means that the Province isn’t really going to be run by the Liberals for the next 4 years… it will be run by fear as spread by public service unions whose plans will be readily implemented by the Liberals. And so what the citizenry is left with is no mechanism to rein in spending short of Ontario’s credit rating going completely in the toilet.

The tipping point has been exceeded….. Conservatives in Ontario can never win again since the block of potential voters with their vested interest is guaranteed to vote against them every time. The party may as well as go into a state of total dormancy until the province crashes and burns… which history dictates it will.

13 posted on 06/15/2014 6:18:50 AM PDT by hecticskeptic
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My husband’s company pulled out of So California 5 years ago. Now we are in AZ. I really miss the beauty, the weather and friends in California......we were there for 2 decades. That being said, I doubt we would retire there. I could not afford to spend most of my Social Security on property taxes.


23 posted on 06/15/2014 6:52:36 AM PDT by originalbuckeye (Moderation in temper is always a virtue; moderation in principle is always a vice. Paine)
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Thought I had died and gone to heaven as we crossed the Bay Bridge in 1967 and drove down to Silicon Valley where we lived until 2002. Things were fine until about 1978.

We moved to southern Utah and established our business to take advantage of tourism. Zion National Park is 12 miles west of us so we see the traveling lefties every day. Thank heaven they don’t stay. In this small Long Valley we have about five hundred residents. Can’t say I have ever met a liberal among them.

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27 posted on 06/15/2014 6:58:59 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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Tustin yes, Newport Beach yes, LA or SF no.


30 posted on 06/15/2014 7:03:31 AM PDT by MSF BU (n)
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The most popular bumper sticker where I lived 40 years ago was “DON’T CALIFORNICATE COLORADO!”

Now it has been. First it was Oregon, then Washington, then Colorado, Now they are moving into my home state of New Mexico.

They foul their own nest, then move to a clean one and start to foul it, trying to make it a copy of the one they left.


36 posted on 06/15/2014 7:14:25 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need more than seven rounds, Much more.)
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My husband and I lived in California (Oceanside, Bakersfield, Laguna Niguel) in the 80’s early 90’s. I liked it but wanted my children raised with positive Midwestern values. We moved back and I’ll never leave Kansas City unless I’m dragged out kicking and screaming.

There are still places of beauty in Ca, but home is home.


39 posted on 06/15/2014 7:16:57 AM PDT by navymom1
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I haven’t set foot in California for 20 years and,apart from possibly changing planes at SFO or LAX,I don’t see myself every setting foot there again.Massachusetts is bad...*real* bad....but not quite as bad as The Land Of Fruits And Nuts And Flakes.


43 posted on 06/15/2014 7:19:48 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Rat Party Policy:Lie,Deny,Refuse To Comply)
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Please don’t move to Georgia. We already have enough NE transplants moving here and then voting to turn our state into the same chitehole they left behind.


48 posted on 06/15/2014 7:23:46 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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I have never understood why anyone would want to live in a state like CA, or any urban area for that matter.

It is easy to avoid the commie bastards, just avoid urban areas. Move out and starve the bastards!

Look at what happened to Detoilet, all the taxpayers moved out and the rotting corpse died.

If every conservative and moderate would move out of urban areas the liberals left will eat each other alive. The liberals that work will turn conservative damn quick when they are all that is left to support the leeches!

You don’t even have to leave the state, just move out of urban areas, that is where all the liberals are, packed in like rats in a corn crib!


53 posted on 06/15/2014 7:46:00 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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I lived on George AFB, during the Carter/Brown yeats.
I left SoCal in 1985. I came back for a visit in 1999.
Icame, I saw, I split! Even though born 6 blocks from the
Queen Mary, there aint no good reason to keep
the entire state in mind.

Now, as to CT, Sen. Lieberman was an upper classman
of my high school years. Other than that, there aint
nothing there, but school fires, bombings, gang fights,
zip gun fights, girlfriend getting raped and killed in school
stairwell, race riots, and lettering in cross country.


62 posted on 06/15/2014 8:24:31 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To Californians thinking of moving to Arizona: Don’t. It’s awful here. You wouldn’t like it.


64 posted on 06/15/2014 8:36:47 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Conservatism is the political disposition of grown-ups.)
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When a quarter of your state population are squatters from mexico, and you have a socialist-progressive government of flaming crazies, who tax the bejeezes out of anyone they can fleece, and give it to said squatters, why would anyone even want to set foot in california?

This craziness also applies to quite a few other states as well. All the more reason to break up the union. Let the socialist-fascist types join the federal government, and the rest can form their own nation, and do something more useful with that constitution that Washington DC has discarded.


65 posted on 06/15/2014 8:38:22 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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We are glad someone has decided to NOT move to San Diego. We’ll be full soon.

Oh and close that tunnel after you crawl out, thanx.


78 posted on 06/15/2014 9:49:18 AM PDT by morphing libertarian ( On to impeachment and removal (IRS, Taliban, Fast and furious, VA, Benghazi)!!!)
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