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To: rktman
Well… Californication is going on in lots of other places. Take for example Ontario, Canada which is a good comparison for California due to its significant size (population of 14,000,000 which would make it the 5th largest state if in the U.S.). The provincial election was held this past week with a rather unbelievable result. Everyone acknowledged that the Liberal government in power were socialist thugs and involved in so much corruption that it would be a cinch to replace them with a conservative government, right? Well, not only was the Liberal minority government not defeated, when the smoke cleared on Thursday, they now hold the majority in the legislature. How did they do it? Think about de Tocqueville famous quote of “The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money.” Up until the point when they can no longer ‘endure’, a lot of spending of other people’s money goes on. What has happened in Ontario is almost the same as California… Between the union controlled public service, businesses that depend on government programs and initiatives for their revenues and a whole host of others who depend on the government for their very existence in some way, shape or form, there’s no point in even suggesting that spending should be reined in….it won’t happen due to the vested interest of what is now the majority (greatly encouraged in that process by the Liberals since it is a perfect fit for their DNA which naturally repulses the concept of living within one’s means). Ontario’s election wasn’t about choosing which party should be in power….. it was a referendum on fiscal conservatism itself and guess what was defeated?

Like California, Ontario has managed to find itself well beyond the tipping point. The possibility that public service unions would get so big that they (along with others who have a vested interested in a particular party winning) would be the deciding factor as to who would be in power was always out there……Everyone should be dead against all public service unions for this very reason but the argument is typically always poo pooed on the grounds that the unions weren’t quite large enough to influence an election and besides, “they would have a breakdown of voting preferences that would be reflective of the general population”. Ya right..… Can you believe that the Ontario Provincial Police Association (union)even ran their own commercials that essentially laid out a threat to Ontarians that if they voted for the Conservative (Alinsky tactic Rule 12), we would be virtually guaranteed labour strife? It is mindboggling that the citizenry wasn’t up in arms about this…. oh wait, it was the POLICE who did it. If the idea of being held hostage by the police doesn’t strike fear into every citizen of Ontario, I don’t know what will. I was chatting with a young nurse just before the election and she said that she and all the nurses that she knows have been told “if you vote Conservative you will lose your job.” Well….it worked and she voted Liberal. Somehow these types of threats and the general demonization that went on against the Conservatives by all these groups means that the Province isn’t really going to be run by the Liberals for the next 4 years… it will be run by fear as spread by public service unions whose plans will be readily implemented by the Liberals. And so what the citizenry is left with is no mechanism to rein in spending short of Ontario’s credit rating going completely in the toilet.

The tipping point has been exceeded….. Conservatives in Ontario can never win again since the block of potential voters with their vested interest is guaranteed to vote against them every time. The party may as well as go into a state of total dormancy until the province crashes and burns… which history dictates it will.

13 posted on 06/15/2014 6:18:50 AM PDT by hecticskeptic
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To: hecticskeptic

Like Maggie said, sooner or later you run out of other peoples money. But that must be okay since the Federal Reserve will just print a new batch to hand out. Soon to become monopoly money if we keep going. Have the conservatives (your choice of defining that) become so disgusted that a lot don’t even bother to participate any more? As long as the lsm keeps hammering home the point that the libs/progs/socialitst are going to sweep the elections and conservatives buy it, there isn’t much going to change. It really boils down to which group of “promisers” each individual chooses to believe. Or which ones they feel are lying more, or less, to them.


17 posted on 06/15/2014 6:30:48 AM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Nascarian. Race: Daytonafivehundrian)
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To: hecticskeptic

Young Canadians (under 40) in my experience, seem to be very radicalized. I’ve heard them spew anti-Americanism & anti-Western nonsense that would put the French to shame.


19 posted on 06/15/2014 6:39:26 AM PDT by LongWayHome
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To: hecticskeptic

I am a Canadian, now living in the US. Like most democrats in the USA, it appears to be that liberals in Canada will always vote their party regardless of what the situation is and what is going on re the economy. I am very sorry to hear about the result of the election in Ontario, but I am not surprised.


51 posted on 06/15/2014 7:36:54 AM PDT by pugmama
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