"Bush administration kicked a ‘hornets’ nest’ in Iraq"

Providence Journal ^ | June 11, 2014 | Providence Journal

[WilliamIII]

Governor Chafee said Wednesday that the George W. Bush administration kicked “a hornets’ nest” with its 2003 invasion of Iraq, an act that unleashed sectarian divisions among Iraqis that are playing out today as militants continue to wrest control of territory from the faltering government of Nouri al-Maliki. Chafee offered his views in an interview after the militants seized control of most of the city of Tikrit, hometown of the late dictator Saddam Hussein. They had captured the city of Mosul the day before. “I never understood the original push for war in Iraq, never understood the logic of regime change,” Chafee said. “These neocons [neo-conservatives] all through the ’90s were talking the importance of regime change in Iraq and toppling Saddam Hussein, the strongman. I just didn’t understand stirring up the hornets’ nest that is the Middle East. It just never made any sense to me, and now we’re seeing some of the ramifications of having deviated from our Cold War containment strategy.”

[USARightSide]

LOL!!!

[Joe Boucher]

soooo,
Bush won the war in Iraq and obammy gave it away.
Pretty simple deal.

[octex]

A-holes like Chaffee need to keep their mouths shut about matters that are far beyond their understanding.

Iraq was progressing pretty well until Obama decided to pull all US military and not get a Status of Forces agreement, just so he could claim a “political” success for “ending a war”. ...Decisions opposed by his military Generals.

[Kackikat]

http://www.armscontrol.org/act/2008_09/IraqUranium

[Kackikat]

Link at bottom.
Bush and Cheney were right about Sadaam purchases of nuclear materials, and I have tried to show that Yellow Cake used to make Nuclear Bombs was found in the Iraq desert near Iran border during the WAR. It was secretly guarded for 3 years and then sold to a Canadian company....Bush did not lie.

Then there was the TV satellite image shown on Fox News during 6 months we waited to invade Iraq of a convoy of trucks going into Syria from Iraq...no telling what was in those trucks, but I bet ISIS is using those weapons now, and that is why the berm between Syria and Iraq was bulldozed this past week to let those trucks back into Iraq.

Americans seem to have taken stupid pills the past ten years....considering the duds they have elected.

YOU are right, it’s simple, but even Repubs don’t seem to get it right... they are so programed by Democrat Media lies and Fox News gets it wrong at times too.

http://www.armscontrol.org/act/2008_09/IraqUranium

[Kackikat]

http://www.armscontrol.org/act/2008_09/IraqUranium

Bush found the yellow cake and kept military guards on it until it was sold to Canada company....media ignored it, except for AP and Canada Free Press.

[Kackikat]

http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/3868

and see comment #24 for another link.

[octex]

I recall Iraqi generals captured after the war and they couldn’t understand why the chemical weapons had not been used. Doesn’t necessarily mean they had chemical weapons, but even their own generals thought they had them.
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Wasn’t there an Iraqi AF General that wrote a book that revealed that most of the WMDs had been flown or trucked into Syria while the US was moving assets to the area before the attack began? .....Why did that story die?

[Kackikat]

On TV (Fox?) there was a satellite image of a convoy of trucks going into Syria from Iraq, just as the US had announced we would be going into Iraq. Most of us with any sense knew that would be as many of the WMDs that could be transported, and I think I sent you a link on the sale of the Yellow Cake Bush military found and sold to Canada during the War.

So maybe in the book, but seen by some via satellite image, self included.

[Safetgiver]

Then there was the TV satellite image shown on Fox News during 6 months we waited to invade Iraq of a convoy of trucks going into Syria from Iraq....Also, during the original invasion there was a convoy of Russian diplomats with Iraqui trucks who were fired upon and stopped but our State Department told the military to allow it to go on, unimpeded to Syria. What was in those Iraqui trucks. I remember Rumsfeldt went ballistic telling the State Department to stay out of military business. MSM subsequentially shut off all reporting on this,even though a Russian ‘ambassador’ was reportedly killed.

[Sacajaweau]

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/06/12/us-usa-afghanistan-detainees-idUSKBN0EN2D820140612

[ballplayer]

This from the arm pit of the country,is there anything from Rhode Island that is worth a Damn?
I guess this jerk is looking for attention

[tumblindice]

That guy looks like a gargoyle!

[EBH]

At the risk of being flamed and/or banned....

I tend to agree with this statement.

But then I also believe the overthrow in Egypt and Syria by the operatives of the 0bama regime are just as freakin’ deadly too.

As sad as it is to the human condition, when a false theology is forced upon a semi-willing people (islam), the result seems to be the “need” for heavy handed leaders.

I have long contemplated the fall of Saddam Hussein and his use of weapons against his own people. Perhaps, just perhaps, these are the very forces he was keeping in check and what we got handed over and over via the liberal media was propaganda. Where we wage nice war and avoid civilians...Hussein waged war as it should be done in their culture, the only way it is truly understood?

Blame Bush? No, this has been a very long time in coming to full fruition going all the way back to before I was old enough to vote(1970’s). We are seeing the result of decades of failed foreign policy in the middle east. There is so much we(government) know and yet...can’t or won’t talk about openly & honestly. From the actual role of UAE and their closed societies to terrorists, because to do so would be so politically incorrect and we have no way to prosecute a proper war against a theocracy without the liberal left prosecuting us for violating our own ideal of ‘freedom of religion.’

We have no way to fight against a religious crusade. We use phrases in our own culture to ‘follow the money’ and indeed we can do that these days. Most of the middle east money flows to either The House of Saud or Iran and both are sponsors of their jihadi mercenaries. Gitmo, enemy combatants etc. are all just words to avoid having to deal with the reality of Islamic war.

Our failure and for this I do blame Bush, is the failure to truly define the enemy...Islam. We wage war against the sponsors of terrorism? The sponsors of terrorism are those who support Islam and all the forms of their multitude of proxy wars.

Blame Bush? Blame Clinton, Blame Reagan, Blame Carter, Blame GW Bush, Blame 0bama...? Or do we, should we actually blame the 1st Amendment and our principal of Freedom of Religion, for not being able to fight back against a theocracy in all its forms?

[taildragger]

Then there was the TV satellite image shown on Fox News during 6 months we waited to invade Iraq of a convoy of trucks going into Syria from Iraq.

Their was a story from back then...

Google had their satellite up and had a 20 something braniac PHD running it. Board one day or night he starts aiming the camera on the Syrian Iraqi boarder. Lookie here, he see's a convoy.

Maybe I am not the best at searching, but I bet a dollar to donuts the story has been scrubbed from the web. It was posted and a thread here on FR.

We also had a screen poster and intel type that noted they gave the clown gas to the Syrians and the Spetnaz etc. flew into Iraq and took the nasty stuff back to Russia during that who UN Stall move with the French guy who's name escapes me was running the block because his kid had contracts with the Iraqi's.

IMHO Bush was too much of a gentlemen to get into the weeds of what we found or speculated about, some of it may have been about his budding relationship with Putty-Put-Putin who has turned out to be an even bigger snake in the grass than we could have ever imagined...

[Kackikat]

Thanks for the background info on the convoy....I saw the satelllite images...

[Kackikat]

We have had traitors in the State Department for years, and the appointments by Ozero of Muslims in house has made it worse...

Homeland Security is behind this influx of children from Central America, so we are fighting the enemy within.

[DocRock]

"Bush found the yellow cake and kept military guards on it until it was sold to Canada company....media ignored it, except for AP and Canada Free Press"

Check this old article, third paragraph from the bottom it states that 1.8 tons had already been enriched.

http://www.utsandiego.com/uniontrib/20040522/news_1n22uranium.html

Also, if you can view .wmv videos, here is one from back in 2004 regarding John Kerry's position before he was against the war...

click the Image to watch the video

Transcript: (John Kerry on "Face the Nation" 9/15/02")

I would disagree with John McCain, that it's actual weapons of mass destruction that may be used against us, it's what he may do in another invasion of Kuwait or in a miscalculation about the Kurds or a miscalculation about Iran or particularly Israel. Those are the things that uh, I think present the greatest danger. He may even miscalculate and slide these weapons off to terrorist groups and invite them to be a surrogate to use them against the United States. It's the miscalculation that poses the greatest threat.

(John Kerry on "Hardball 9/17/02")

But the President, as I also wrote in that article, always reserves the right to act unilaterally to protect the interest of our country.

If you have the bandwidth, here is the LINK to the better, longer, larger video. This is a 3:35 long, 4 Mb .wmv Video.

[Kackikat]

Thanks for the info, it sure seems this Administration including Kerry and the Democrats had to do a lot of backpedaling to get to their position on Iraq now.

[FreedomPoster]

Good article here on RI.

The Bluest State
Decades of liberal policies have made Rhode Island the nation’s basket case.
http://www.city-journal.org/2014/24_2_rhode-island.html

Chaffee is just the latest in a succession of idiots.