Posted on 06/12/2014 8:44:16 AM PDT by Kenny
ERIC CANTOR wasnt the only person at a loss for words on Tuesday night.
His pollster, McLaughlin & Associates, found itself trying to explain the impossible how a projected 34 percent lead for the House majority leader 12 days before the election could end up an 11-point loss on Election Day to David Brat of the Tea Party in the Virginia Republican primary.
Weve all been there. There isnt a pollster alive me included who hasnt had to take the walk of shame, hat in hand, to explain to an angry client why a predicted outcome simply didnt happen.
Make no mistake: This was a whopper for the ages. McLaughlin didnt merely get it wrong; this was quantitative malpractice a mind-blowing modern-day Dewey Beats Truman moment.
That said, polls cant predict elections. They are essential tools, windows into the minds of a particular audience but they cannot and should not be used as infallible crystal balls.
Trouble is, pollsters are under ever increasing pressure to feed a voracious media beast and provide the answer to that perennial question, Whos gonna win? And therein lies the problem with polls, pollsters and consumers of both.
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What is worse, if its true, is the suggestion that the Cantor poll was leaked in order to sabotage the other side by suggesting that the majority leaders lead was insurmountable. In this case, not only was the poll inaccurate, the tactic was inept. It may have created momentum for the other side rather than crushing it, and lends legitimacy to the public skepticism aimed at our craft of late.
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This is the money quote, what polls now do in elections.
you know, if everyone just lied to pollsters, the whole sham industry would collapse
Couldn’t the poll data also be explained by the fact that Democrats could also vote in this primary and did so to oust Cantor?
The coming war is between free men and the indentured sycophants
It was the bad weather. (Eyes rolling)
You don't want EVERYONE to lie to the pollsters.
Just half the folks should lie.
Many of the late 2012 polls were also massively inaccurate.
Repubs were supposed to take the Senate. Instead, they actually lost seats.
Romney was supposed to trounce Obama. Instead, Michelle still gets to eat Kobe beef steaks and take expensive vacations to luxurious locations on the taxpayers’ tab.
it is not likely that there were enough Dem votes to turn the election... Brat did exceedingly well in all the staunchly conservative precincts... Eric Cantor received 8,000 fewer votes this election than his last election... those voters either stayed home or voted for Brat...
i think this polling firm, along with Cantor and his campaign staff, simply phoned it in... i think he/they knew he was not going to win by a large a margin as in the past, but i think he/they thought they could squeak this one out, and deal with growing their support later—once he was Speaker of the House... they were all on autopilot... cruise control...
“No one seems to understand America is becoming American rather than Republican or Democrat.”
I sure hope you’re right, knarf. It’s high time too.
I wonder if the best tactic is to sneak up on these statist so they don’t have time to organize their election machine.
It was the bad weather. (Eyes rolling)
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Yes, to quote the quite befuddled, discombobulated Brit Hume as he spoke the night of the election while a member of Megyn Kelly’s panel of experts -— “...well, it rained yesterday”. So the obviously stunned and disappointed Hume tried to blame some rain on Monday for Cantor’s landslide loss on Tuesday.
Some of these folks just don’t have a clue. Despite Kelly’s attempts to guide some of them to the realities on the ground, they simply couldn’t shake their misconceptions that stem from their time, in the New York bubble, being isolated from the “country class”.
I feel like most of the polls are biased and won’t respond to them. How many others won’t either and what is the impact on these polls?
Why I was wondering was due to a map of the districts Brad won I saw on FOX indicating that Brad won the majority of urban precincts. The rural ones voted for Cantor. Obviously, the urban areas have the most population; but they are also the place where there would be a concentration of Democratic voters, too. If there is a true conservative backlash against the Republican establishment, why wouldn’t it show in the rural areas, too?
Just guessing about knarf, but if he is a libertarian, what he means is America is becoming libertarian (he hopes) instead of CONSERVATIVE Repub or Dem. libertarians are the hippies of the right, they are not conservatives.
“Now, as Republicans recover from the shock of his defeat and set about moving forward on a positive path,”
Interesting view. How did Republicans lose? A Republican won a primary against another Republican. (Of course, the Establishment Republicans may have lost.)
Wasn’t overall participation up, by around 20%, from the 2012 primary?
Kinda hard to blame rain when there’s increased turnout.
Cantor was polling the country clubs. This district is not NVA.
The polls failed because they failed to poll the RAT crossover voters!
Brat did really well across the board...
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