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Pentagon eyeing immigrants who arrived illegally
Associated Press ^ | May 20, 2014 6:00 PM EDT | Erica Werner

Posted on 05/21/2014 11:30:19 AM PDT by Olog-hai

Pentagon is weighing allowing some immigrants brought illegally to the country as youths to serve in the military, a unilateral step by the Obama administration as immigration legislation remains stalled in the Republican-led House.

The announcement came Tuesday as House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, defended his election-year decision to rebuff a narrow immigration measure pushed by a GOP congressman to achieve a similar goal.

The Pentagon consideration would apply to immigrants who arrived illegally as kids but already have received work permits and relief from deportation under a program President Barack Obama announced two years ago, called Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, or DACA. More than 500,000 immigrants have benefited from the program. …

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: aliens; braking; illegals; immigration; military; obama; pentagon
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To: SkyPilot

israel does many things worth criticizing, like any other country


61 posted on 05/21/2014 12:49:43 PM PDT by ghost of stonewall jackson (An amateur built the Ark; professionals built the Titanic)
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To: RedStateRocker

No not at all....we’re headed down the same path though—Dark Ages and all.

Our modern Foederati may very we’ll include segments of our enemies. Just like Rome!


62 posted on 05/21/2014 12:49:54 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Bible Summary in a few verses: John 14:6, John 6:29, Romans 10:9-10)
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To: Olog-hai

This will open the door for thousands of Muslim legal immigrants and refugees who have been part of a massive importing program of Hillary and Obama for the past five years - they are everywhere and few are working.


63 posted on 05/21/2014 12:53:33 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: ghost of stonewall jackson
As a Christian, you know that God’’s plan is through Israel. His Covenant with them has not been declared null and void. You also know what the Book of Genesis says regarding the Jews: God will bless those who bless them and curse those who curse them. What has Israel done, specifically, to tick you off?
64 posted on 05/21/2014 12:58:04 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: Olog-hai

If I recollect my history, it’s when Rome began using foreign mercenaries that the empire began declining and falling in earnest.


65 posted on 05/21/2014 12:58:18 PM PDT by mojito (Zero, our Nero.)
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To: Mr. K
If someone in this status volunteers to server our country and pledges loyalty and serves honorably, I have no problem with cranting them citizenship - but I dont think it is necessarily “constitutional” is it?

Constitutional or not, I have a big problem with it. First, the military is downsizing forcing tens of thousands of enlisted and officers out of the service. We don't have a recruitment problem. So we need illegal aliens to do jobs Americans and legal immigrants can't or won't do? Why should we allow an illegal alien to compete with our own citizens?

We have a program for legal immigrants (green card holders) to serve and receive expedited citizenship. They cannot be officers due to security clearance issues.

We don't need the US military to be a clearinghouse for amnesty. As a veteran who believes that military service is a privilege and an honor, I see no reason to admit illegal aliens who are in violation of our laws. And there are national security considerations as well.

I say not only no, but hell no to allowing illegal aliens to serve in the US military--as is currently the case. We all know that the pro-amnesty advocates are using this issue as a way to place the camel's nose under the tent.

The respect and admiration the American people have for the military is being used as a vehicle to grant a limited amnesty and make it acceptable. Then they can expand it in much the same way as the so-called Dreamer amnesty is being used. In fact those eligible to serve are being drawn from those granted legalization thru Obama's backdoor Dreamer amnesty that has legalized 500,000 people and issued them SSNs and work permits.

66 posted on 05/21/2014 1:00:25 PM PDT by kabar
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To: SkyPilot

as far as i am concerned, the birth of Christ to the tribe of Benjamin, and His death on the Cross is the completion of God’s covenant with israel. with the release of the jews by cyrus the great and their return to israel, the prophesies for the jews’ return to their land was fulfilled, first of all

secondly, with regard to the state of israel, their continued construction of settlements on the occupied west bank, in land owned by both arab christians and muslims, is wrong.


67 posted on 05/21/2014 1:05:49 PM PDT by ghost of stonewall jackson (An amateur built the Ark; professionals built the Titanic)
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To: Farmer Dean
The Government will build the units who will not hesitate to shoot Americans in the street using illegals.

Would not doubt this as a plan, stupid as it is. Look at Venezuela where Kirshner freed inmates from jail who later ended up on goon squads for the government.

68 posted on 05/21/2014 1:14:39 PM PDT by VRW Conspirator (Global Warming is caused by illegal immigrants!)
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To: ghost of stonewall jackson; ExTexasRedhead

Wrong. Explain the 144,000 in the Book of Revelation. Explain God’s protection of his people outlined in the Book of Revelation. As to your other accusation, you sound like one of those “Christ in the Checkpoint” liberals who ignore Israel’s right to exist, but have oh so much sympathy for homocide bombers on school buses in Israel. The Biblical borders (and as a Christian you should know this) of Israel, defined by God Himself, are to the Euphrates river to the east, and far beyond to the south, north, and west. The “settlements” you complain of are the right of any nation to build housing. It is Satanic to oppose that.


69 posted on 05/21/2014 1:18:11 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: Olog-hai

The way around this problem is for the US to create the equivalent of a “foreign legion”, limited to a large Caribbean island. While run by US officers and NCOs, it could have personnel from around the world. It would not be permitted to set foot in the US.

The purpose of this would be as a cost saving exercise.

This force would be trained as “very light infantry”, not for any serious combat mission, but for the stupidly expensive and extended “guard duty” missions that cost tremendous amounts of money and degrade our military.

Spending billions of dollars training and equipping top soldiers to stand around with their thumb inserted is a waste beyond waste.

So basically, rifles and radios for these foreign legionnaires. They can also pitch in a lot of labor for humanitarian missions.

Our military is now too small to be squandered on such missions. It needs to be used only for real missions.

Private enterprise tried to create a serious combat legion with Blackwater, but it was too much, and made too many enemies in our own government.


70 posted on 05/21/2014 1:24:17 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: kabar

I am not sure if it was clear from my post but I remain against it for Constitutional grounds, despite the fact that I think it would be one of the ONLY fitting ways to grant citizenship.

We do allow people to obtain citizenship by other methods. This, in my opinion, would be one of the better methods.


71 posted on 05/21/2014 1:24:30 PM PDT by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period. PALIN/CRUZ 2016)
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To: ghost of stonewall jackson

“can one criticize israel and not be an anti-semite?”

Absolutely.

But there sure is a lot of overlap.


72 posted on 05/21/2014 1:25:18 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: Olog-hai

If illegal aliens realize they could end up in a VA hospital, they might not sign up!


73 posted on 05/21/2014 1:25:42 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back The Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: Olog-hai

Yea, that’s smart. Allowing criminals to be trained in using guns and to have guns. What could possibly go wrong? Fools!


74 posted on 05/21/2014 2:03:02 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Mr. K
I am not sure if it was clear from my post but I remain against it for Constitutional grounds,

On what basis? Technically, illegal aliens are supposed to register for the draft. Depending on the circumstances, they can be forced into the military or some sort of national service.

We do allow people to obtain citizenship by other methods.

Be specific about the other methods. And as far as I can determine, we have not allowed illegal aliens to serve knowingly in the military and provided them a path to citizenship. Why is this a better method? Why is it necessary?

75 posted on 05/21/2014 2:05:53 PM PDT by kabar
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To: SkyPilot

first of all, i have never disputed israel’s right to exist. secondly, i don’t apply theology to international relations; i apply the national interest of the united states. third, the Apocalypse was written at a specific time, to comfort the church during a time of vicious roman persecution

let me ask you this: is benjamin netanyahu saved?


76 posted on 05/21/2014 2:09:47 PM PDT by ghost of stonewall jackson (An amateur built the Ark; professionals built the Titanic)
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To: Olog-hai
Pentagon is weighing allowing some immigrants brought illegally to the country as youths to serve in the military

I read somewhere that a large percentage of enlistees are denied because of downsizing, education and health issues. But lets just close one more door to Americans getting a good start.

77 posted on 05/21/2014 2:12:31 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: Olog-hai

and the Romans hired barbarians to fill the army posts vacated by the soft, elite citizens.

and then the barbarians attacked and sacked Rome.


78 posted on 05/21/2014 2:35:04 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: ghost of stonewall jackson

You don’t apply theology to international relations? You don’t believe that God has a foreign policy? He does, and it favors Israel. Read your Bible...you are a Christian, you said so. Are you affiliated with liberal groups or congregations? If you are, divorce yourself from them.


79 posted on 05/21/2014 2:41:19 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: ghost of stonewall jackson

Good question. No, not yet. Netanyahu is not a child of Christ. do I believe that God Himself chose him to lead Israel at this moment in history? absolutely. Don’t you? Isaiah predicted events beyond human political comprehension. You do not believe that God rules in the affairs of men? again, what is your specific problem with the Jews?


80 posted on 05/21/2014 2:46:39 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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