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Why don't Americans ride trains?
The Economist ^ | 29 Aug 2013 | Economist

Posted on 05/09/2014 9:49:39 PM PDT by Cronos

AMERICA has by far the largest rail network in the world, with more than twice as much track as China. But it lags far behind other first-world countries in ridership. Instead of passengers, most of America's massive rail network is used to carry freight. Why don't Americans ride trains?

..the Japanese, the Swiss, the French, the Danes, the Russians, the Austrians, the Ukrainians, the Belarussians and the Belgians all accounted for more than 1,000 passenger-kilometres by rail in 2011; Americans accounted for 80. Amtrak carries 31m passengers per year. Mozambique's railways carried 108m passengers in 2011.

There are many reasons why Americans don't ride the rails as often as their European cousins. Most obviously, America is bigger than most European countries. Outside the northeast corridor, the central Texas megalopolis, California and the eastern Midwest, density is sometimes too low to support intercity train travel. Underinvestment, and a preference for shiny new visions over boring upgrades, has not helped. Most American passenger trains travel on tracks that are owned by freight companies. That means most trains have to defer to freight services, leading to lengthy delays that scare off passengers who want to arrive on time.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: carsstink; governmentstinks; planesstink; rail; trainsstink; trucksstink
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To: Olog-hai

BNSF runz trainz across Mont.

Montana.


121 posted on 05/10/2014 1:12:22 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: JoeProBono

122 posted on 05/10/2014 1:16:57 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Olog-hai

$4.40 per gallon obamagas.


123 posted on 05/10/2014 1:26:11 AM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: Cronos

Trains suck.


124 posted on 05/10/2014 1:31:54 AM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: Cronos
Trains take you from where you ain't, to where you don't want to be. ~Mark Twain

And, on a schedule not your own.

125 posted on 05/10/2014 1:39:23 AM PDT by meadsjn
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To: Olog-hai
Agenda 21 herds humans into sanctioned living zones at the expense of private property rights. Trains service these islands of human habitation. Trains are paid for with the same federal dollars that build the human habitats. Private property is under assault at the same time forced urbanization is taking away the automobile as a traditional family vehicle. All these things work in concert and private property rights are the first casualty when eminent domain is used to acquire right of ways for urban transportation facilities, corridors, whatever.

Owning property in, around and near metro areas makes one more aware of the forces at play. Fewer know the difference between self-subsistence and serfdom as land ownership becomes rarer.

Mass urbanization has resulted in a citizenry that has forgotten how to be self-sufficient.

126 posted on 05/10/2014 1:52:25 AM PDT by x_plus_one (Islam Delenda Est)
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To: thecodont

Now you board at either Jack London Square or Emeryville, both with ample nearby dining and other services.


127 posted on 05/10/2014 2:03:31 AM PDT by Lisbon1940
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To: sharkhawk

That’s a really interesting statistic. Source?


128 posted on 05/10/2014 2:10:48 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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129 posted on 05/10/2014 2:21:57 AM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: Cronos
This chart well-explains why trains work better in Europe and elsewhere vs. most of the US.

Americans like their elbow room and not living on top of one another. And packet switched networks are more efficient than circuit switched ones. Trains are like a circuit switched network, cars like a packet switched one. For most of the US, trains are a 19th Century solution to 21st Century problems.

130 posted on 05/10/2014 2:36:51 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Cronos

We are an automobile society.


131 posted on 05/10/2014 2:40:00 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: Cronos

I’ve ridden Amtrak across this great country of mine.

There are a lot of places, now, where the train USED to STOP, but now it just goes through.

I live in Central Louisiana. I have to drive South 3 hours to Lafayette, SouthEast 4 hours to New Orleans, 4 hour North to Shreveport, to go to the train station!!!!

Nowadays, the gotterdammerung TSA is waiting to feel you up before you board a train. What good is that?


132 posted on 05/10/2014 2:45:54 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: Cronos

We’re a long ways away from stuff. I can drive from Italy to Belgium and still not cover as many miles as it is from one end of California to the other.


133 posted on 05/10/2014 2:58:30 AM PDT by ArmstedFragg (Hoaxey Dopey Changey)
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To: Cronos
Most American passenger trains travel on tracks that are owned by freight companies. That means most trains have to defer to freight services, leading to lengthy delays that scare off passengers who want to arrive on time.

True ... Most American passenger trains travel on tracks that are owned by freight companies.
Not true ... that means most trains have to defer to freight services, leading to lengthy delays that scare off passengers who want to arrive on time.
Passenger trains, Amtrak for instance, get priority over freight trains.

134 posted on 05/10/2014 3:01:23 AM PDT by BluH2o
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To: Cronos
Most of the US is a suburban hellscape,....

I stopped reading right there.....

135 posted on 05/10/2014 3:14:47 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Kickass Conservative

But! Mussolini made the run on time!


136 posted on 05/10/2014 3:15:32 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: doc1019

The TSA isn’t going to let me board a train with my 1911 like I can with my F150. That’s why.


137 posted on 05/10/2014 3:16:32 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: cpdiii

World’s best cabbies in that town too. They take a lot of the up-market and mid-distance commuters. London works because of the density, the multiple transportation options, and the anti-automobile government policy. San Francisco’s somewhat similar. I lived there for a year without a car, and didn’t miss it.

It’s cultural too. I doubt we’ll ever see American cab drivers biking around town learning “The Knowledge”.


138 posted on 05/10/2014 3:18:25 AM PDT by ArmstedFragg (Hoaxey Dopey Changey)
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To: cpdiii

Plus, parking at any hotel in Manhattan is now at least $45/day. Therefore, if you are going to be there for more than a couple days it is probably cheaper to take the train into Penn Station. Also, don’t even think about driving a Suburban into NYC. I had a friend who did that. The Marriott charged him $110/night to park because it is an oversized vehicle.


139 posted on 05/10/2014 3:20:00 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: Jim Robinson

I have liked riding trains since I was a little kid. I have always thought that Amtrak should be parted out to individual railroads and the Fed Gov should contract with them to provide passenger service. Private rail is more efficient


140 posted on 05/10/2014 3:29:39 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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